Is Atheism a crutch for people who don’t understand the complexity of God?

[Thunderdog]

Quote from andrasnm:

...There is strong historical and cultural evidence of reincarnation and karma...

*Sigh*

Quote from andrasnm:

...Since you offer no belief of your own, just negate mine I am thinking that you are just an argumentative guy who thinks very highly of himself. If you said, I don't think this and that BECAUSE of this... (insert logic) I would be more prone to listen. With you I simply have to ignore what you say. I’m not to convince anybody here, boyo.

I told you that I did not believe in pipe dreams passed down through the ages BECAUSE there is absolutely so factual and verifiable evidence to support such fanciful claims other than someone else's say-so. In the absence of verifiable evidence, I will bestow upon such claims the same regard as I would for someone else's pipe dreams. Because that is what they really are. I'm NOT the guy who thinks overly highly OF myself. I'm just the guy who tries to think FOR myself. Boyo.

 

[jonbig04]

There is no quick or known answers. Those who think there are are fooling themselves and can be summed up in one word religious.

 

[Gringinho]

Quote from jonbig04:

There is no quick or known answers. Those who think there are are fooling themselves and can be summed up in one word religious.

Here's a quick and known answer for you:
in algebra, 2+2 = 4

I did that without religion...

 

[jonbig04]

Quote from Gringinho:

Here's a quick and known answer for you:
in algebra, 2+2 = 4

I did that without religion...

I was speaking of religious questions but if you want to get technical:

2+2=5.

Can you prove me wrong?

 

[Free Thinker]

"Is Atheism a crutch for people who don’t understand the complexity of God? "

is the complexity of god argument a way for believers to rationalize the lack of evidence for a god?

 

[andrasnm]

I will give you two 2 dollar bills and you will give me a fiver, deal?
I'll do it all year long.....now are you convinced?

Quote from jonbig04:

I was speaking of religious questions but if you want to get technical:

2+2=5.

Can you prove me wrong?

 

[Gringinho]

Quote from jonbig04:

I was speaking of religious questions but if you want to get technical:
2+2=5.
Can you prove me wrong?

Tell me which context you are using. Certainly it is not Algebra, but tell me which model or theory you are using, and I will tell you if you are wrong.

 

[jonbig04]

Quote from Gringinho:

Tell me which context you are using. Certainly it is not Algebra, but tell me which model or theory you are using, and I will tell you if you are wrong.

Sure. I like to call it jonbigism. Now please, prove me wrong.

 

[Gringinho]

Quote from jonbig04:

Sure. I like to call it jonbigism. Now please, prove me wrong.

Ok, now you have a name for it.
Lets start by defining some structures for your model, and then we can see if they are axiomatizable.

I hope you know formal languages and predicate logic - it really helps.

 

[TraderZones]

Quote from huh:

I guess my question would be if God created everything.....then where did God come from?......I guess my problem has always been the argument that "God just is"......I do believe that there is a "God" I'm just not sure what the form of "God" is.

There is so much existing mystery to our tiny, exploring minds, why is it necessary for God to come from somewhere?

If He was created, then there must be a God who did that, so ultimately, you get the same result.

The chance that "created" or finite beings like us could understand God to any great degree, is small, given our extremely finite understanding of what we can already see and touch. What is Dark Matter? What is the chemical or physical basis for love? How is the complete knowledge to build a nest wired into the mind of a bird? What is the exact nature of gravity? Why can't we exceed the speed of light?

That is the point of faith. The problem is not God, it is us...

No one can really prove or disprove God. And when people argue that they can, their arguments are quite unconvincing - it usually boils down to their opinion, or their belief. That is a lot different from a fact.