Is anybody actually getting filled by TIMBER?

Quote from OldTrader:

I don't trade stocks all the time, but when I do I get quite a few trades with TMBR. Frankly, it would be interesting to see what they are doing with these trades, but I'd say they're losing their ass.

Knowing who they are I've tried to figure out what they're doing, and the best I can figure is that they seem to be going with the very short term intraday trend. Sometimes I buck these pretty actively. The thing is I don't know if they are hedged in what they do, how long they hold, etc etc. Sometimes I laugh after I have made a trade with em.:D

OldTrader
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Glad you're so sure they are losing. I mean that's what they do for a living right?
 
Quote from Bitstream:

i couldnt help but notice that most of my losin' trades land at tmbr...now i look immediately after execution at the destination and if its tmbr i begin to worry somethin' might go wrong....those guys sure are good, beware.
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i have same expirience. never been filled by TMBR to open position,but when stoppped or @ exit filled by TMBR-in short term at least, price go opposite way 90% of time.
if i sell to close my long and order filled by TMBR-generally stock price will go higher.
 
According to OldTrader IB is a poor trader, so how come all you guys are saying they win 90% of the time?

I mean OldTrader can't be blowing smoke could he?
 
This thread got me curious so i did a transaction count for the
past several months. I dont trade every day. All executions done via smart rt.

ISLND .... 402
NYSE ..... 150
TIMBR .... 103
BRUT ..... 28

A few more exec. on ARCA, SUPERS, ....


... rj
 
Quote from stock777:

According to OldTrader IB is a poor trader, so how come all you guys are saying they win 90% of the time?

I mean OldTrader can't be blowing smoke could he?
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All I can do is give my experience. Why don't you give yours, instead of worrying about whether I'm "blowing smoke"?

In fact, I gotta wonder why you seem to be so prone to believing everyone except me. Have you seen me prone to lying somewhere? Maybe they make money overall...versus on any particular trade or with any particular trader...don't suppose that occurred to you did it?

OldTrader
 
Quote from OldTrader:

I don't trade stocks all the time, but when I do I get quite a few trades with TMBR. Frankly, it would be interesting to see what they are doing with these trades, but I'd say they're losing their ass.

Knowing who they are I've tried to figure out what they're doing, and the best I can figure is that they seem to be going with the very short term intraday trend. Sometimes I buck these pretty actively. The thing is I don't know if they are hedged in what they do, how long they hold, etc etc. Sometimes I laugh after I have made a trade with em.:D

OldTrader
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As a former market maker on Euronext Amsterdam I had very good experiences with THE (Timberhill). I often traded against them in options. Sometimes they just give you the best quotes and fills because they have to hedge their overall position and you can take advantage of that because you receive a better price. They often bought the offer or sold the bid in the market maker crowd. All the BS about that they know who are the best and the worst traders and take a position based on that information is just losers talk.
 
Quote from stock777:

..., so how come all you guys are saying they win 90% of the time?

I mean OldTrader can't be blowing smoke could he?
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Losers always fumble things like that.
Going by ET popular wisdom - never disputed - 95% would be losers.

Overmore, who else would chip in for the profits of the nimble?
 
Quote from OldTrader:

I don't trade stocks all the time, but when I do I get quite a few trades with TMBR. Frankly, it would be interesting to see what they are doing with these trades, but I'd say they're losing their ass.

Knowing who they are I've tried to figure out what they're doing, and the best I can figure is that they seem to be going with the very short term intraday trend. Sometimes I buck these pretty actively. The thing is I don't know if they are hedged in what they do, how long they hold, etc etc. Sometimes I laugh after I have made a trade with em.:D

OldTrader
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this is correct, spots preferred by tmbr seems to be short intraday trends and reversin' as soon as mkt dictates good odds for direction change....micro trends and overextended momentum in both direction is where u find 'em.
of course we dont know if they are only on 1 side, innit...but ya, i enjoy it when they lose against me, and the more the merrier, hee hee; lately they havent been so lucky tradin' against me.
 
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