Is $5,000 enough to get started with trading?

Quote from SteveD:

Must live in US. Any where else and you are out of the "flow" of the game. Don't understand the nuances of the market.

SteveD

Well Steve,I guess all the successful traders living in Europe,the Caribbean,Canada...anywhere else where people know how to read and have a computer must be starving...
 
Quote from icantoday:

I have $5,000 that I can justify using in a new business venture. Is this enough
to get started with day trading? If so could you please suggest a service I should start with (Ameritrade, Cybercorp,Realtick,Rediplus,etrade etc.)

I would greatly appreciate your suggestions.

Ken

my opinion is you can make a living trading with 5000.00, if you can read the charts and patterns and have the ability to wait for the set ups that you know work, set stops and get out

if you go to a prop firm that gives 4-1 all day long you get 20,000.00 per trade

trade 7-10 stocks and trade 2000-2500 shares at time

take .04-.06 and get out, unless you see you get more

set a daily goal, not to get rich but to make a living at first, and see how many trades you need to make to get to your goal

if your goal is 300.00 aday, then trade for 50.00 profit and do 10 trades a day, it safer and you get out faster

20.00 a trade should cover your commission, if it doesn't go for 60.00-10 times

you can answer your own question by downloading the das trader on this thread and trying to see if you can

they will give you 100,000.00 buying power on paper, but only use 20,000.00, learn the charts and patterns and trade the account like it was your money at risk, don't screw around with it because its paper, take it serious because when its you money it will be

you can sign up for 7 days but you can resign after it goes down for another 7 days and another, if you won't take the time time to do this when its free in your hands then you probably won't have the disipline to trade and you will lose money

you have to know why your buying and when your selling, and in my opinion, you have to know charts and patterns
 
Quote from SteveD:

Must live in US. Any where else and you are out of the "flow" of the game. Don't understand the nuances of the market.

SteveD

Well Steve,I guess all the successful traders living in Europe,the Caribbean,Canada...anywhere else where people know how to read and have a computer must be starving...
 
Well, If its any comfort, at least you (they) have ET. :)

Michael B.


Quote from Siwash:

Well Steve,I guess all the successful traders living in Europe,the Caribbean,Canada...anywhere else where people know how to read and have a computer must be starving...
 
Quote from icantoday:

I have $5,000 that I can justify using in a new business venture. Is this enough
to get started with day trading? If so could you please suggest a service I should start with (Ameritrade, Cybercorp,Realtick,Rediplus,etrade etc.)

I would greatly appreciate your suggestions.

Ken


i FOUND THIS WHEN I WAS LOOKING AT SWIFT TRADE TONIGHT AND I THINK IF YOU FOLLOW THE PATTERN IN THIS PARAGRAPH , YOU CAN MAKE A LIVING AND EVENTUALLY DO WELL, JUST MY OPINION, BUT IF YOU PICK ON THE SAME LIQUID STOCK EVERYDAY, YOU WILL KNOW IT BETTER THAN CHASING EVERY STOCK OUT THERE, YOU WON'T NEED TO PICK OFF EVERY SPREAD JUST THE ONES THAT OFFER A TRAGET THAT WILL HELP YOU REACH YOUR GOAL


So, what exactly is proprietary trading?
Simply put, SwiftTrade's Prop Traders are employed to trade a company's capital on the stock market. Traders are equipped with state-of-the-art computers and software that allows them direct access to the markets via a number of Electronic Communications Networks, or ECN's. Traders will generally buy and sell one security (stock), making lightening fast decisions in a matter of seconds to capture the "spread" or the difference between asking price and the bidding price of that security.

How does it work?
Each Trader is connected to a Market (NASDAQ, NYSE, etc.), and trades a single stock. Traders have three basic resources on hand to make lightening-fast buy and sell decisions:

The Level II Window: This window shows the size and value of all the bids and offers (in left and right columns, respectively) on a particular stock, top-down from highest to lowest. This allows traders to see what every other trader is bidding, or offering. When a trader puts in a bid or offer, it will appear on this screen. Watching a Level II screen on an active stock is spectacular, with buys and sells happening in less than seconds.

Charting: The charting window shows the progressive ups and downs of a stock's price, as well as the volume (number of shares) traded. By watching charts, traders can pick up on patterns than aid in making buy or sell decisions.

The "Squawk Box": This is essentially a PA system that connects the trading floor to an actual person, standing on the floor at the Chicago Mercantile Exchange, where Futures (contracts to buy stocks in the future) are traded. By listening to what other traders are betting on in the long term, stock traders can get a better idea of what the price of the underlying stock will do in the immediate future.

Sound crazy? It is. It is quite possibly the most exciting job around.
 
I'm not here to pick a fight especially since I totally agree with your first two sentences and you do state that they are just opinions but I'm adding my $.02 for what it's worth...

Quote from SteveD:

The simple hard cold truth is you cannot trade with $5,000 and make money. You will lose the 5Grand. My opinion has always been:

My rules of "daytrading"

Must have direct access screen

A direct access broker would be a nice plus but not necessary depending on ones intraday style.

Nothing but equities, anything else is a suckers game. The small trader cannot compete. Moderate liquid equities offer the best imbalance for the small trader to take advantage of.

That's odd. The same emotions of fear and greed seem to apply to every market, but that’s just my humble opinion.

Indices: You are trading against computers the size of a Buick!!

Sure those computers exist, but if their objective is to arb futures against cash, it's not like they are trading against you. If anything it's great that they are providing liquidity.

Commodities: Do you think you know more about a product than the companies that actually use the commodity.
Who cares what a company knows? What if their trade is a producers hedge to manage future profits, or a buyers hedge to control future costs. If they are buying/selling over X number of days, you're going to tell me that you can't go for the ride if you identify the trend early?

Metals: See commodities
See commodities

Must live in US. Any where else and you are out of the "flow" of the game. Don't understand the nuances of the market.
LOL. Guys like Def and Metooxx, neither of whom live in the US, must be having a really hard time trading DERRIVATIVES.

How's sitting in front of the direct access screen that you "must have" different if you're in Denver, CO than it is if you're in Singapore. If anything their fiber infrastructure is better.


Now, if you actually learn something then the $5,000 is a cheap education for a very rewarding career. Compare to college cost!!
[fine... I agree with these two sentences too. $1000 buys lots of books. Start with $4000. The odds are so against you at $5000 that spending 20% on book learning probably wont affect ones chances of success any.

SteveD
 
$5000 is enough to start trading with IF you know what you're doing. If you don't, your "hard-knock" education is going to cost you a LOT more than that.

About location: I trade and teach from Israel. Market hours here are 4 pm to 11:15 pm. Not a big problem. There are many other traders here doing the same.

All the best,

Phil
 
Quote from Transact Futures:

5K is plenty to trade anything. Is it enough to last for a year trading? I doubt it.

Rich, if it's enough to trade, why shouldn't it last? UNLESS the trader has no education. But in that case, even ten times the amount won't last a year!

All the best,

Phil
 
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