IRS gets $500 million to implement Obama’s health law

mercor --- u are half right... but more wrong.

the government insurance in the Affordable Health care act will get you insurance where u will not pay $10k deductible. it will be the top of the line insurance. with subsidies up to 600% of poverty level.

yes u might be right. possibly u could have a $10k deductible and lower it $100 for individual and $300 for family...

i will not research it, but can agree.

so mercor. is this what you want??? is this fair??? do you believe that poor people should be responsible for their first $10k. if they make $20k a year how will they survice? u believe the doctors and the drug companies should get rich off of people's misfortune? if so then yes you are right and we disagree. i hope u are not christian or musilim. i hope u are a capitalist atheist, becuase if you are not then you are a hypocrite.
 
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ok... i will take the bait. we got: lucrum, banjo, and scat. 3 people that oppose the bill and probably conservatives (and possibly religous).

let me make some points. i hope you agree these points are true. u can answer them one at a time --- i numbered them.

1 - do u currently have health insurance?
2 - do you know that a single policy is $350 a mon. min and a family $600?
3 - do you know that a good health plan is $650 a mon for a single, and $1200 for a family?
4 - this is what you want to pay?
5 - that is between $5000 and $24000 a year. if you make $32k (gross) which is mean income, and you pay that much how can you live?
6 - why do you think the rich people, who employ people for min wage, $10 an hour, $20k a year, pay so little?? it gets the rich people richer, it keeps the poor people broke. and then in addition if they get sick they have no health coverage... who pays for that???
7 - now lets get to the point of this thread. if a bill is passed. it needs to be implemented in 2014. do you start funding it? i will answer that. YES
8. - bigger question -- the 500 million. where does it go? guess what? the government spends it... yep thats right. so that businesses get more money. thus helping you. you know what they dont do? they dont earn money like APPLE and then HOARD it.... the governt spends money. it is a great thing. so $1 goes to joe shmoe, he buys a coffee, the coffee guy buys a TV, the tv guy buys an APPLE then APPLE hoard it... yeah . so much for expanding the money supply. its the greedy people who hold the money, that is the problem. not the government.
9. and my last point for now. --- are you 3 haters??? what does it matter that our president wants to help people? do you live good here? are there police protecting you and your mercedes? do u eat whole food? do you fuck prostitutes and pop bottles? yeah, so why do you care if u are taxed $1000 a year. it does not affect you.. (plus funny thing u are not being taxed). stop hating and let people get some help.

i hope when your local municipality like NY, raises your parkeing meter from .25 ahalf hour to .50 for 10 minutes, u get so upset. that is some unfair shit!!!!! not health care.
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Neither you, nor the government, have any right to force me to purchase anything. End of story.
 
lucrum - thank you!!!! for the intelligent response.

i think u miss the point. if we are all in it together, we all need to help each other. if you dont believe your fellow american needs your help. i cant fault you for that. that is your opinion. the government cleans my streets, picks up my garbage, makes my roads, and pays my police. if i could have my flat screen, cable, a car, food, and health care and knew it was guaranteed for life. i would not need money. i just want to live. and be happy. i will work. and i will work hard. but why do i need 1 million in the bank??? i dont. i am down to share my good fortune.

clearly u are not.
 
tsing tao -- i would love to agree with u on that.

but in my state i MUST pay car insurance.
also we all must pay SS.
we all must pay to get a drivers license.

if we are forced to pay for these things. i think we should also be forced to pay for health insurance. it all falls under the umbrella of doing whats best for ALL.
 
---the government cleans my streets, picks up my garbage, makes my roads, and pays my police.---

that's state and local gvt.
btw-AVERAGE police officer's salary in my area is 97K a year + everything else is free. pension for life,insurance etc.. turn around and count how many people in private sector making 100K a year today in US. i'm talking about per person,not household.
 
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Speaking of health care, people have to eat;
what is next, federal gov requirement to eat veggies.LOL:D [/B]
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That would not be right imo. But what they should do is divide food stamps into produce and non-produce (simpy add a "P" to make a new voucher type), then convert say, 40% of a person's food stamp rations to "P-only". That way at least the government would be helping people stave off diseases that medicaid then has to pay to treat.
 
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tsing tao -- i would love to agree with u on that.

but in my state i MUST pay car insurance.
also we all must pay SS.
we all must pay to get a drivers license.

if we are forced to pay for these things. i think we should also be forced to pay for health insurance. it all falls under the umbrella of doing whats best for ALL.
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(Devil's advocate): Not true, you don't have to choose to own a car or drive one.
 
bob --- so u want to do that job... i would not. so what you want is a cop to work for 50? 30? what do you want.

if u want me too... i will research it. but would be shocked if feds do not got give money for local law enforcement. do u agree, or do u really think they are only funded by municipalities.
 
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if u want me too... i will research it. but would be shocked if feds do not got give money for local law enforcement. do u agree, or do u really think they are only funded by municipalities.
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yep..they sure do. not sure,if the local gvt truly need it..here is your tax dollars at work-

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/16/police-tank-purchase-new-hampshire_n_1279983.html

It's not quite a tank. But the quaint town of 23,000 -- scene of just two murders since 1999 -- had just accepted a $285,933 grant from the U.S. Department of Homeland Security to purchase a Bearcat, an eight-ton armored personnel vehicle made by Lenco Industries Inc.
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it make no sense to me,when public servants are earning more(sometimes x2+ more) than their masters(tax payers from private sector). don't know about you, but i have problem with that.
 
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