Only a complete moron would advocate complete withdrawal from Iraq at this point. We simply need a better plan. Whoever the imbecile was that advocated a smooth transition to democracy 1) Never read Machiavelli and 2) Forget to take into account the Shiite majority vs. Sunni economic and military superiority. Or did they? I firmly believe Bush and his bunch KNEW that they were going to set the stage for civil war. As close as he is to the freakin Wahabi's no one in their right mind could have ever thought that he intended on handing that country over to the Shiites. As much as I despise Bush and am sickened by his approach he has painted us into a corner. Like the monkey on a leash that he is, at the behest of his Wahabi organ grinders he has effectively alienated us further from the Shiites. He has feuled and exacerbated the tensions so we would have no real choice but to side with Faud and his henchman Osama. Seems to me that the only real choice is to move to a neutral corner and let nature run it's course. If the Shiites get an upper hand strike em and let the Sunnis clean up the mess.
Iraq war poll: 61% of Americans want to continue fight
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Hapaboy, the planeticket is here waiting for you to fly to Nigeria. Or was Sudan? It doesn't really matter, those guys there always kill each other, so plenty of people there to be saved...
You also missed the trip to Cambodia when the Red Khmer was killing a few millions... So your charity of helping people looks rather selective... :eek:
You also missed the trip to Cambodia when the Red Khmer was killing a few millions... So your charity of helping people looks rather selective... :eek:
What about Afghanistan anyway. Nobody ever says anything about it here. Gets very little coverage in the media.
What are we doing there? There's no oil. Can't see anything that would be of US interest.
1999 Report: The Taliban's War on Women - A Health and Human Rights Crisis in Afghanistan:
Overview
This report documents the results of a three-month study of women's health and human rights concerns and conditions in Afghanistan by Physicians for Human Rights (PHR). The extent to which the Taliban regime has threatened the freedoms and needs of Afghan women is unparalleled in recent history.
Afghan communist military and civilian collaborators, brought mass killings, torture, disappearance, the largest recorded refugee outflow in history, and a scourge of landmines. The subsequent.....
Blah, blah, blah. I say screw 'em. It's none of our business anyway.
What are we doing there? There's no oil. Can't see anything that would be of US interest.
1999 Report: The Taliban's War on Women - A Health and Human Rights Crisis in Afghanistan:
Overview
This report documents the results of a three-month study of women's health and human rights concerns and conditions in Afghanistan by Physicians for Human Rights (PHR). The extent to which the Taliban regime has threatened the freedoms and needs of Afghan women is unparalleled in recent history.
Afghan communist military and civilian collaborators, brought mass killings, torture, disappearance, the largest recorded refugee outflow in history, and a scourge of landmines. The subsequent.....
Blah, blah, blah. I say screw 'em. It's none of our business anyway.
You're right on all points Nik.......
Pekelo explains the world:
It is natural gas just for a change and it is the route, not the producer....
In short: Turkmenistan has a shitload of natural gas around the Caspi sea. But it is landlocked with Russia in the North and Iran in the South. For strategic reasons neither of them is advised on the long run.
For American based interests it needs a route via Afghanistan and the friendly Pakistan to reach the Oceans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline
"The new deal on the pipeline was signed on 27 December 2002 by the leaders of Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Signing the agreement was made possible by the invasion of Afghanistan by United States military forces a year prior, "
See?? Follow the true interest and you will understand the world. Freedom my ass....
P.S.: Actually that plan didn't work out either because:
"However, since then the project has essentially stalled; construction of the Turkmen part is supposed to start in 2006, but the overall feasibility is questionable since the southern part of the Afghan section runs through territory which continues to be under de facto Taliban control.
It is natural gas just for a change and it is the route, not the producer....
In short: Turkmenistan has a shitload of natural gas around the Caspi sea. But it is landlocked with Russia in the North and Iran in the South. For strategic reasons neither of them is advised on the long run.
For American based interests it needs a route via Afghanistan and the friendly Pakistan to reach the Oceans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline
"The new deal on the pipeline was signed on 27 December 2002 by the leaders of Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Signing the agreement was made possible by the invasion of Afghanistan by United States military forces a year prior, "
See?? Follow the true interest and you will understand the world. Freedom my ass....
P.S.: Actually that plan didn't work out either because:
"However, since then the project has essentially stalled; construction of the Turkmen part is supposed to start in 2006, but the overall feasibility is questionable since the southern part of the Afghan section runs through territory which continues to be under de facto Taliban control.
Quote from Pekelo:
Pekelo explains the world:
It is natural gas just for a change and it is the route, not the producer....
In short: Turkmenistan has a shitload of natural gas around the Caspi sea. But it is landlocked with Russia in the North and Iran in the South. For strategic reasons neither of them is advised on the long run.
For American based interests it needs a route via Afghanistan and the friendly Pakistan to reach the Oceans.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline
"The new deal on the pipeline was signed on 27 December 2002 by the leaders of Turkmenistan, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Signing the agreement was made possible by the invasion of Afghanistan by United States military forces a year prior, "
See?? Follow the true interest and you will understand the world. Freedom my ass....
P.S.: Actually that plan didn't work out either because:
"However, since then the project has essentially stalled; construction of the Turkmen part is supposed to start in 2006, but the overall feasibility is questionable since the southern part of the Afghan section runs through territory which continues to be under de facto Taliban control.
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Now I see where the US interest lies. Can't see why though, since the US alone has close to 2,000 Trillion Cubic Feet of natural gas as of 2002, and every year the estimates increase.
I think an even better idea would be to invade Canada. Canada has the world's 2nd largest oil reserves including the tar sands. Why won't the US invade Canada? It's closer, the people are a lot nicer than the psycho radicals in the middle east, so I don't think the Canadians would put up much of a fight.
What good is Canada for anyway? They don't do anything except get in our way and even worse, a lot of them speak french. Yuk!
And why not invade Saudi Arabia, that's where the big oil is.
Look how we invaded Kuwait and took all that oil. We is bad. Really bad.
From what I gather on this thread, Zzzzzzzz is this websites lefty bleeding heart liberal, yet he has no problem pulling out of iraq which would cause the deaths of potentially hundreds of thousands of iraq's. Yup, that pretty much sums up the wacky lefty's. Wait a minute. Isnt that exactly what happened in vietnam? The lefty's cried and cired, we left, and 2 million southern vietnamese were over run and slaughtered by the VC???
History repeats itself. Thank a liberal.
Doh!
History repeats itself. Thank a liberal.
Doh!