Iran’s attack on Israel "imminent"

But objectively it seems (UN report) Israel killed an estimated 12.000 children so far, caged inside a human zoo as a revenge for the 30 children killed by the Hamas terrorists.

This is too easy and simplistic with no mention of the responsibility of Hamas and no history of this very complex conflict. Like I said earlier, it seems like Hamas and the Palestinians are winning the media war.

I've seen huge protests worldwide against Israel, but zero protests against Hamas. People should be marching in the streets demanding that Hamas laid down their arms, surrendered and released the hostages they still hold captured in Gaza. If they did, the war would already be over and could have been over before it started.

But it's only Israel which receives the blame here.

Israel have the critical eyes of the whole world at them and very little to gain by killing civilians, but it's very difficult to have a war against an enemy that's hiding like cowards in hospitals and among civilians easily sacrificing them in this pointless war.

It's fine to be critical towards Israel and the civilian casualties are terrible and tragic, but it's also hard to see how Israel could not respond to such a barbaric attack as was carried out on the 7th of October.

Palestine have received an incredible amount of money in aid over the years and could really have built something for themselves if they wanted to, but all that money goes towards tunnels, weapons and rockets that they keep firing at Israel with the ultimate goal of completely destroying Israel.
 
All religions are delusional.
Man made fucked up narrative that have zero scientific or empirical value.


So yeah... Anything can be possible when you are dealing with cult followers.

All Religions have a core value of Vice and Virtue.
In that way they are identical.
But as a human, which is better:

to live in Vice.
Or to live in Virtue?

Seven Deadly Sins
(1) pride/vainglory
(2) greed/covetousness,
(3) lust
(4) envy
(5) gluttony/drunkenness,
(6) wrath/anger
(7) sloth

Seven Heavenly Virtues
(1) Prudence,
(2) Justice,
(3) Temperance,
(4) Courage,
(5) Faith,
(6) Hope
(7) Charity

Seems to me, especially April 15, tax day, envy(4) is a giant problem.
Paying giant money for something I didn't vote for, or get any benefit from.
At least a toll bridge, it's tons better than swimming across.
That's just in the U.S.
At my last "day job", I worked at HSBC Bank at the Internet portal.
Maybe 200 people there, developers,. etc.
All the management were Western Europeans.
And all the Project Managers (me) same.
Of the developers, maybe 40 were Hindus.
All arranged marriages.

Four guys were Muslims (Pakistanis)
All nice guys.
They were really trying to distance themselves from the radicals back home.
They considered guys their age back home as "losers".
They would not use that word though.
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BTW, there is a popular myth that H1B's are cheap help,
pushing the natives out.
I never saw it.
the H1B's get paid plenty.
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Meanwhile overseas,
It must suck living in a mud hut (or cinderblock shack),
while Americans all live rich in NYC.
Or a big McMansion in the burbs.
 
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I havent a clue as to what actually goes on in the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem.There are 3 sides to the story...

This started in 1967,and 57 years later there is still no viable solution...

What I dont quite understand is Hamas had to know the responce would be brutal...

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Exactly. Israel is not at war anymore. It is purely a genocide.
 
What I dont quite understand is Hamas had to know the responce would be brutal...

Hamas don't give a shit about loss of civilian life and will easily sacrifice babies to get international sympathy and attention, so I'm sure they're getting exactly what they wanted.

For these religious fanatics death and martyrdom is the highest honor, so they don't give two shits about dying themselves either.

What's incredible to me is that even before the war started and shortly after the terrorist attacks people were still protesting against Israel. And there were celebrations worldwide celebrating the "fight for freedom".

Disgusting.
 
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I havent a clue as to what actually goes on in the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem.There are 3 sides to the story...

This started in 1967,and 57 years later there is still no viable solution...

What I dont quite understand is Hamas had to know the responce would be brutal...

Sad
No, this started with the Marshall Plan (1948).
It seemed obvious that flattened economies could not abide by any peace treaties
Certainly didn't happen after World War I.
So the U.S. would jump-start all those economies.
The U.S. started a game of "Monoply" with all these countries.
But the "Bank" would only hold U.S. Dollars. Nothing else.
Europe and Japan did fine with game of Monopoly.
Israel too.
But none off the Islamic countries got involved (with the commerce).
Muslims are stand-off-ish with that stuff.
Respect for the Elders, etc.

But it is still:
Judeo-Christian versus Islam.
This is where the Virtue versus Vice fits in.
 
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I don't support anyone in wars, they are not a football game and I would never "serve" any government.

But objectively it seems (UN report) Israel killed an estimated 12.000 children so far, caged inside a human zoo as a revenge for the 30 children killed by the Hamas terrorists.

Give me a link for those photos please.
 
I havent a clue as to what actually goes on in the Gaza Strip and West Bank, including East Jerusalem.There are 3 sides to the story...

This started in 1967,and 57 years later there is still no viable solution...

What I dont quite understand is Hamas had to know the responce would be brutal...

Sad

That is fair, they have been in that horrible conflict for decades, but there is something we can't deny, data:

Source: https://www.ochaopt.org/data/casualties

It seems to work only on web browsers, the mobile version is stuck.

That data is not even up to date, the numbers on the Palestinian side have grown in the last year.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/longform/2023/10/9/israel-hamas-war-in-maps-and-charts-live-tracker
 
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