Iran Says Helicopter Carrying Its President Is Missing After ‘Difficult Landing’

TheDawn said:
LOL Nice try! The whole point that Gaza is given to Israel in exchange for another piece of land to be given to Palestine is to make Israel's sovereign territory to be whole. What's the point of giving Gaza to Israel only to see it being surrounded again on the other side by carving out another piece on the side to be given to Palestine? LOL Israel would be surrounded on both sides again from Palestine. How would you like it that Mongolia occupies Shanghai makes it its own sovereign territory so it can get access to the sea and leaves China sandwiched in the middle between two sovereign territories of Mongolia and is able to attack China from both sides?

No the only land that Palestine can have is any portion of Israel that's adjacent to Palestine so Palestine gets to expand its territories into part of Israel and that's it. And besides, why does Palestine needs access to the sea? It already has access to a sea, the Dead Sea right on its border with Jordan! Isn't that enough? Access to a sea is not a guarantee to prosperity. Look at Sri Lanka! And yet many countries are completely inland, surrounded by multiple countries on all sizes and have zero access to any waterways and they are quite affluent. Switzerland, Austria come to mind and they are not even resource-rich. How well a country does economically depends largely on how efficiently and effectively they use the resources they have, aka making lemonade out of lemons. No country is perfect.
More...
You should look at a map before going off on a tirade. I was suggesting that Palestine should be a unified country, by getting land in the north, along the border with Jordan and access to the sea for shipping purposes. Palestine needs to prosper for its population to focus on its economy instead of Israel.
Certainly nothing can happen until all Middle Eastern nations and Muslim world recognize Israel's legitimacy.
 
VicBee said:
You should look at a map before going off on a tirade. I was suggesting that Palestine should be a unified country, by getting land in the north, along the border with Jordan and access to the sea for shipping purposes. Palestine needs to prosper for its population to focus on its economy instead of Israel.
Certainly nothing can happen until all Middle Eastern nations and Muslim world recognize Israel's legitimacy.
More...

LOL First of all, I wasn't make a tirade.

Second, you are the one who should take a look at the map before commenting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_conflict. Gaza strip is just a tiny thin strip of land between Israel and Egypt? What do you suggest Israel give to Palestine in exchange? Its entire northern Israelis territory extending all the way to Lebanon until it reaches the Mediterranean Sea? LOL So for a tiny strip of land, Israel has to give up half of its country? LOL No matter how much you want to compensate Palestine, there is no way it can reach the Mediterranean Sea without cutting Israel in half, destroying the territory integrity of Israel again. What's point of gaining a tiny little strip of land when the whole country is going to be cut in half instead? LOL

And like I said before,
TheDawn said:
Access to a sea is not a guarantee to prosperity. Look at Sri Lanka! And yet many countries are completely inland, surrounded by multiple countries on all sizes and have zero access to any waterways and they are quite affluent. Switzerland, Austria come to mind and they are not even resource-rich. How well a country does economically depends largely on how efficiently and effectively they use the resources they have, aka making lemonade out of lemons.
More...
 
TheDawn said:
LOL First of all, I wasn't make a tirade.

Second, you are the one who should take a look at the map before commenting. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli–Palestinian_conflict. Gaza strip is just a tiny thin strip of land between Israel and Egypt? What do you suggest Israel give to Palestine in exchange? Its entire northern Israelis territory extending all the way to Lebanon until it reaches the Mediterranean Sea? LOL So for a tiny strip of land, Israel has to give up half of its country? LOL No matter how much you want to compensate Palestine, there is no way it can reach the Mediterranean Sea without cutting Israel in half, destroying the territory integrity of Israel again. What's point of gaining a tiny little strip of land when the whole country is going to be cut in half instead? LOL

And like I said before,
More...
Gaza is a tiny speck of land, but a huge problem for Israel. What I'm suggesting is an L shaped swath of land, maybe 10 km wide, going north of the WB to Lebanon's border, then to the sea.
Is that more than Gaza? Absolutely; but neither Israel nor Palestine would form isolated islands and Palestine would be a viable nation, bordering Lebanon and having access to the sea.
In exchange, Gaza would become part of Israel and the land would be unified, with Palestine on its northern border.
Again, this can only work if the Muslim nations recognize Israel and its borders and commit to disarming the military groups they've financed all these years. Not an easy ask.
 
VicBee said:
Again, this can only work if the Muslim nations recognize Israel and its borders and commit to disarming the military groups they've financed all these years. Not an easy ask.
More...

Yes that's the key and the most pivotal in resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict. If the ultimate intention of all of the neighbouring Muslim countries is just to see Israel gone, any effort that Israel makes to reach a compromise with Palestine is not going to result in anything positive and any potential sacrifice that Israel makes will never be appreciated and recognized so the conflict will never be resolved. Before any negotiations can take place for anything, there needs to be an attitude adjustment on the part of all of the neighbouring Muslim countries so that negotiations are made in good faith.

VicBee said:
Gaza is a tiny speck of land, but a huge problem for Israel. What I'm suggesting is an L shaped swath of land, maybe 10 km wide, going north of the WB to Lebanon's border, then to the sea.
Is that more than Gaza? Absolutely; but neither Israel nor Palestine would form isolated islands and Palestine would be a viable nation, bordering Lebanon and having access to the sea.
In exchange, Gaza would become part of Israel and the land would be unified, with Palestine on its northern border.
More...

I am quite confused with how you envision this L-shaped land is and how it can extend all the way to the sea without cutting Israel off. I don't know why you are so obsessed with connection to waterway for a country and insist that it's the only way for a country to reach prosperity. I just gave you examples of countries that are surrounded by water and are still piss poor and countries that are completely inland are very rich. Whether a country is rich or poor depends on how well it uses its resources that it has.
 
Inverted both east to west and north to south (i.e facing opposite direction and upside down) L shape.

Gaza swapped for NE corner and narrow corridor to Med.

Simple, logical ... Jews will never do it.

It is said about them, they don't drink - it would get in the way of their suffering.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top