Iran May Attack Israel First

Trader666 · Feb 6, 2012

Sure CowardTraderDud, tell yourself whatever lies you need to.

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Piss off... It's a free country, I don't have to fight and kill people if I don't want to...! I'd fight for an issue that I believe in but I ain't fucking dying for Israel!

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What would you do if there was a draft, CowardTraderDud? Run to Canada?

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Go to Canada, maybe... I'll say I'm a conscientous objector... If not... I'll go to jail. Canada isn't really an option, they'll be involved in this as well and I think that they're deporting deserters anyway...

futurecurrents · Feb 6, 2012

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This. I can't help to think the Ayatollahs are playing the Jew card like Saddam did: hype an exaggerated threat to rally support behind their unpopular Government. We're clearly the aggressors here. But Iran knows they can't touch Israel. If Iran dropped one abomb on Israel, the Jews would parking lot their entire country.

Everyone knows that. [/QUOTE

One would think that..... but there are some pretty simple-minded, militaristic, flag-wavers on the right who see all these problems through the site of a gun. And then we've still got the Zionist Neocons still running around and crying wolf on Israel's behalf. The Iraq war was not enough for them.

Lucrum · Feb 6, 2012

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One would think that..... but there are some pretty simple-minded, militaristic, flag-wavers on the right who see all these problems through the site of a gun. And then we've still got the Zionist Neocons still running around and crying wolf on Israel's behalf. The Iraq war was not enough for them.

IF you're trying to establish yourself as a leftist loon, it's working.

Trader666 · Feb 6, 2012

+1

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IF you're trying to establish yourself as a leftist loon, it's working.

tomdavis · Feb 6, 2012

I have no idea what you're talking about. I never said anything about drones. Israel's nuclear weapons are launched via missiles (from land, submarines or surface ships at sea) or dropped from airplanes. Maybe where you come from missiles and airplanes are science fiction, but most people accept them as current technology.

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Think again... That's science fiction...

CoolTraderDude · Feb 7, 2012

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I have no idea what you're talking about. I never said anything about drones. Israel's nuclear weapons are launched via missiles (from land, submarines or surface ships at sea) or dropped from airplanes. Maybe where you come from missiles and airplanes are science fiction, but most people accept them as current technology.

Apparently, they don't have intelligence where you come from...!

You didn't read the article did you...? Dolphins (submarines) aren't capable of firing off those big missiles with long ranges... The submarines themselves don't have the endurance to get close enough to fire off nuke missiles if they were modified to fire those missiles in the first place...

Dolphin Class

Armament: 6 Ã 533 mm (21 inch) torpedo tubes,
4 x 650 mm (25.5 inch) diameter torpedo tubes

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin_class_submarine

Israel's current navy consists of 3 Corvettes... Obviously, not capable of doing what you suggest.

The "Jerichos" ICBM missiles or whatever... may or may not exist...

Israel does have the capability to deliver small tactical nukes from aircraft but that's about it. They don't have any heavy bombers with penetrating capability or lift required to do what all the loons are suggesting.

CoolTraderDude · Feb 7, 2012

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One would think that..... but there are some pretty simple-minded, militaristic, flag-wavers on the right who see all these problems through the site of a gun. And then we've still got the Zionist Neocons still running around and crying wolf on Israel's behalf. The Iraq war was not enough for them. [/B]

Hey... I might not be able to stop them but I don't have to participate if I don't want to...!

Hell no, I wont go!

pspr · Feb 7, 2012

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The "Jerichos" ICBM missiles or whatever... may or may not exist...

Israel does have the capability to deliver small tactical nukes from aircraft but that's about it. They don't have any heavy bombers with penetrating capability or lift required to do what all the loons are suggesting.

Quit being such an ass.

Israel is currently believed to possess between 75 and 400 nuclear warheads with the ability to deliver them by intercontinental ballistic missile, aircraft, and submarine.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons_and_Israel

RCG Trader · Feb 7, 2012

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The Iranians are crazy, but they're not stupid. They won't attack Israel first. It's no secret that Israel keeps a large part of their nuclear arsenal on submarines, disguised ships at sea, aircraft in the air and other locations outside of Israel. Even if Iran launched a successful attack against Israel, they would still catch hell from the scores of nuclear weapons that would rain down on them from all directions.

Finally.

Iran might be a lot of things but suicidal is not one of them. Nor were the Americans or Russians during the cold war. Nukes have sigs, and the next one that goes off will be the beginning of the end.

Trader666 · Feb 7, 2012

That's not how it will happen. Iran will hand one off and claim they "lost control" so they have plausible deniability.

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Finally.

Iran might be a lot of things but suicidal is not one of them. Nor were the Americans or Russians during the cold war. Nukes have sigs, and the next one that goes off will be the beginning of the end.