Iran and American Interference

Quote from EC1:

THE solution to the Islamic countries is very simple for me:

Divorce the church and goverment like Europe did centuries ago.

That's true but unfortunately you assume you are dealing with rational people of which a good portion of the muslim population is not.

They don't understand reason or comprimise only violence. IF they dont get what they want they threaten to blow you up. Just think about it this way- A countries newspaper published a cartoon of a god and it sparks riots all over the world.

Does this sound like a clear headed group of people?
 
Free energy is a great idea but not a reality. It never will be a reality. Free energy equals world crises (especially in the US) since you now have to lay off thousands of your current work force. People bitch about the cost of entitlement programs now, what happnes when energy is free?

Besides, oil will always be needed for other uses than gas. How can you live today without plastics and lubricants that are derived fom oil? Alternative energy for transportation and electricity generation should be a goal but it must use something similar to the existing infrastructrure so that you do not have massive job losses throwing the economy into a tailspin.

Besides, nothing is free, remember that.
 
Quote from sputdr:

...Just think about it this way- A countries newspaper published a cartoon of a god and it sparks riots all over the world.

Does this sound like a clear headed group of people?

Just think about it this way: the government tries to collect a tax on tea, yeah, the kind you drink, and the people rise up in revolt and fight a war over it. Can you believe it, a war!?
 
Quote from Ricter:

Just think about it this way: the government tries to collect a tax on tea, yeah, the kind you drink, and the people rise up in revolt and fight a war over it. Can you believe it, a war!?

Over Tea? No I don't believe it. But if a war broke out over independance and the taxing of tea was the tipping point that's what I would believe.

It's a little more involved than the Boston Tea Party.
 
Corporations seek profit, and they will spend big bucks to maintain a status quo that ensures future profits. But when the geopolitics change beyond their control, and when the Public becomes aware of it, the corporations can do nothing else but scramble and follow.

Btw, what do you mean by "free energy?" Renewable energy?

Quote from achilles28:

You take one tenth of what was spent in Iraq - 40 billion - and put it up for a global, free energy x-prize.

All of our energy problems would disappear in a year. In a fucking year.


The fact is, this will never happen. Big oil/defense owns congress and the sitting Administration (and the former, and the one before that... )


Think about the implications of free energy:


Tens of trillions in oil belonging to the worlds most profitable corporate empires VAPORIZING overnight. GONE.

Tens of TRILLIONS in corporate assets, equipment and investor value gone in a day.


Gone now is also Americas need for oil wars that serve the dual function of transferring hundreds of billions of tax payer monies to the defense industry.

Think the defense industry wants free energy? Fuck no.

If you subscribe to the finite theory of peak oil, oil rich states represent ground zero for every major armed conflict in the recent past and foreseeable future (see Iraq, Iraq, Afghanistan (caspian sea), Iran, Saudi Arabia etc).

A hopelessly dependant oil economy is fucking bank for defense contractors. They LOVE it! It just means the US will be plunged into more war, which means pure cash for them. No oil need = no war = no money.

What all this represents is the hijacking of US stewardship by the Anglo Saxon military-industrial establishment to:

1) create artificial scarcity by suppressing alternative energies from emerging. This ensures the dominance of oil as the worlds premiere energy source and the suppliers of it as masters of the universe for a very long time.

With oil our 'only hope'

2) defense contractors are written blank checks by congress for providing the tools to wage war against the terrible bogeyman (read: oil sultans) who would only nuke us if they had the chance!!! Oh, and incidentally, they've also got trillions in oil, which is ironically the only self imposed economic currency our good trusty whores in congress have allowed us to use. So we better jump on the 'war on terror' bandwagon or we're slitting on own throats!!


This whole cycle of power consolidation, leading to Congressional sanctioned scarcity (fucking whores), leading to war, and back again, can all be short circuited by free energy. Or something close to it.

You put free energy into the equation and the Big Oil scumbags don't have a leg to stand on. Their vast empires are rendered desertified scrap yards overnight.

With Westerns no longer needed to tacitly condone thinely veiled oil wars, and the entire Middle East - and its radical Islamic factions - having nothing to do with the oil except eat the shit, Islamic terrorism falls off and defense contractors have nobody to bomb.

What happens next is a resurgence of middle America from the crushing fiscal burdons of spiraling energy costs and defense inspired, towering tax rates. Real power - the MONEY - returns from the hands of the controlling elite, to the hands of the many.

When you take the fiscal burdon away from American public and releive them of their endless toil for meanial gain, their attention and their stamina will be reenergized and free to explore more enjoyable and productive pursuits - like cultivating a renewed interest in THEIR COUNTRY.

This scares the shit out of every two bit congressional whore and industrial war monger out there. Make no mistake. A revitalized American middle class having the financial independance to get involved in their country represents a real and serious threat to the ruling political/industrial elite.


This is why no real attempt by congress, or the President - or any other Governmental body - will ever be made to invest SUBSTANTIAL monies into alternative energies and once and for all develop a lasting counter to oil.

They would be shot dead in their tracks. Assassinated.

There is simply too much money in too few hands that have a overwhelming interest in seeing this nation hopelessly addicted to oil and, as a proxy, war.

These same interests own the politicians and our so-called national 'leaders'. These people, 'our leaders', are nothing but whores. Bush or Cheney, or Clinton or Stumpy have no intention of doing sweet-fuck-all about our current energy crisis. They love it.

It represents consolidation of power from the masses to the elite. From our checkbooks to theirs, we seal our fates everyday by every pump we squeeze and every lie we eat.


Remember what Eisenhower said in his farewell address?

" In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist."


Its already happened. They've taken over.
 
Quote from TGregg:

Opinions are free in CC, you don't even have to ask for them. :D

That is true. I should ammend my statement to say that nothing of real value is free. You get what you pay for, and you don't always pay in money.
 
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Burtakus: I should amend my statement to say that: “nothing of real value is free.”


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SouthAmerica: How about air. I don’t pay for air, and air has a real value to me – without air I would die in no time.
 
Quote from southamerica:

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Burtakus: I should amend my statement to say that: “nothing of real value is free.”


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SouthAmerica: How about air. I don’t pay for air, and air has a real value to me – without air I would die in no time.

As with anything else, you get what you pay for. Shell out the big bucks to live in the mountinas (or just rough it) and you breathe pristine air. Don't and breathe the contaminated shit elsewhere.

You may not pay for it monetarily but you pay for the air you breate in other ways.
 
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