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Investors on Crack
- Thread starter PAPA ROACH
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Quote from Kassz007:
That's exactly my point. Analysts and even the companies themselves forecasted very very low numbers. The market then priced in those very very low numbers. Now the actual earnings are being released which are much higher than expected, which is why we are seeing this gorgeous rally the past 2 months.
I dont disagree with you on the mechanics, I just think the market has overshot the present value of future cash flows. I think if one were honest about asset valuations on the balance sheet and the expectations of future revenues in a consumer de-levered economy, the current multiples for REITS, Banks (un aided by free money) and Consumer stocks are way to high. I think energy and commodity stocks are too low. Im sure you disagree...its what makes a market.
Bottom line, regardless of headline earnings, P/E's are roughly 22 which is very expensive still and the fundamentals are not getting better (employment, spending). The economy has an excess capacity problem that will be problematic for some time to come.
Quote from PAPA ROACH:
It is unbelieveable to me how people base their trading/investing decisions on what they percieve as good news. What anyone finds bullish about the following article escapes me.
We are in the midst of the greatest bull market in the history of man. The next decade will make the 90's look like the 70's. Everybody hop in. The water is fine.
Markets tend to defy logic at the very top of a move. We are seeing the swing of sentiment from very bearish, to overly bullish. Wait until you see the anchors on financial news channels giddy with bullishness, like the economy is full of roses. It's coming within the next week. Then short the hell out of retailers, industrials, casinos, and aything else that's tied to the consumer.