InvesTools anyone?

Hi again,

They still say it's family members. I haven't pushed them on that though. I'll ask tomorrow and let you know what I find out.

Also, in case it wasn't clear in my previous message, the second price I listed for the masters and PhD are the workshop discount prices.
 
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Hi again,

They still say it's family members. I haven't pushed them on that though. I'll ask tomorrow and let you know what I find out.

Also, in case it wasn't clear in my previous message, the second price I listed for the masters and PhD are the workshop discount prices.
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Why would you waste so much money on this? You can get the info they teach from a few tech analysis books. And then you will learn that is not much of a way to make money...
 
I didn't and wasn't planning on signing up for more workshops. I was posting the info for Optimistic, who wanted the prices.

If I found an excellent course in investing, I would sign up. People have different learning styles. I prefer to learn via classes or groups supplemented by reading, exercises, etc. I imagine that people who are attracted to online forums like this tend to prefer learning via their own research and reading. Obviously it varies from person to person. My thought is whatever works for someone, go for it.

For me, I'm glad I went to the initial workshop. The $99 gave me those two days and 3 months access to their website (both the tools and a few tutorials). Since investing is completely new to me, it was helpful to see someone demonstrate different ways to invest. Now I'm inspired to learn more.

Based on how they taught the class and on the prices, I'm not going to do more learning through their program. But, that's okay w/me. That course served it's purpose; now I'll look for other ways to learn (e..g, books people mentioned here, other classes).

If you know of great classes or instructors (in addition to the ones already listed in this email string), I'd be very interested in hearing about them.

Happy learning.
 
topinvestingtools
Have gone through the entire thread and not found any mention of this software. $93 for the PHD Toolkit . TGTBT? - Apprears to be a Prototype/Mokup of investools. Not interested in the educational part of it as that is available for free, but was wondering about the software part of it.
Their Web is just an uninformative comparison to investools, I'm not even sure how they manage to get away with it.
Googled and all I came up with was a million hits input by topinvestingtools themselves. Surely there must be some feedback out here somewhere?
Any insight or experience would be very much appreciated.
 
TopInvestingTools vs investools
Have gone through the entire thread and not found any mention of this software. $93 for the PHD Toolkit . TGTBT? - Apprears to be a Prototype/Mokup of investools. Not interested in the educational part of it as that is available for free, but was wondering about the software part of it.
Their Web is just an uninformative comparison to investools, I'm not even sure how they manage to get away with it.
Googled and all I came up with was a million hits input by topinvestingtools themselves. Surely there must be some feedback out here somewhere?
Any insight or experience would be very much appreciated.
 
Well, here goes nothing. (And this will be my 3rd post for those counting). :D

I've been cautiously lurking here, reading various posts, and the inevitable caustic responses that come. Talk about patterns.....

My favorite being the "One-post Schill". I've hesitated posting a legitimate question about a service/trade room/system for fear of being labeled a 'schill' or spamming for a service. Either that or accused of being that Pure Tick guy Alex, who receives a lot of hate. Is it deserved, who knows. Don't care.

Anyway, I remember signing up for a 'service', which shall remain nameless, and getting into a trading room thinking that I had discovered the coolest thing since sliced bread. Gosh, everyone must be making a million dollars.

I wasn't that naive, but you get the point.

Signed up, paid some fees,......and was then informed it was 'Summertime trading' and that the volume slows down so that may mean the trades may not work. Niiiiice. Buyer beware, I understand that. You got me.

ALL of these services hide behind the "it may not work for you" line. Bullshit. It either works or it doesn't. Show the person how to look for the setup, recognize it and pull the trigger.

That should be the first 'red flag'.

And while I realize this now, I wish someone had told me this when I first started.

Just me two cents. I'll await the beating :cool:


OMEGA
 
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Well, here goes nothing. (And this will be my 3rd post for those counting). :D

ALL of these services hide behind the "it may not work for you" line. Bullshit. It either works or it doesn't. Show the person how to look for the setup, recognize it and pull the trigger.

Just me two cents. I'll await the beating :cool:


OMEGA
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Hi Omega,

NOTHING is foolproof. If there were a foolproof method, then everyone would be doing THAT, and there would be no one to take the other side of the trade.

There is no system that "either works or doesn't" because what works in one type of market doesn't work in other markets. Most trading systems will teach you the following:

. Sell covered calls and Iron Condors and even buy calendars to make money in a sideways market.
. Buy stock or calls, sell Puts or Bull Put spreads, to make money in a bull market.
. Short stock, buy Puts, sell Calls and Bear Call spreads to make money in a bear market.
. Intra-day trading may be the only way to make money in a wild roller-coaster market.

You need to know which type of market we're in and trade accordingly.

There are free classes that are good, and expensive classes that are good, but the best way I've found is to get together weekly with like minded traders and learn from each other. If you can't find such a group, start one.
 
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My favorite being the "One-post Schill". I've hesitated posting a legitimate question about a service/trade room/system for fear of being labeled a 'schill' or spamming for a service.
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The problem with shills is, about the only people who ask "what do people think about this service?", seem to have fewer than a dozen posts.

And invariably, someone else with less than a dozen posts often has good things to say about it (often a different alias of the same person/vendor).

Why do people with hundreds or more posts rarely ask this question? ...because they are more likely to speak the truth or have seen enough of these get-views-by-pretending-to-be-interested-in-it websites to know a shill or useless service when they see one.

Just today, we had someone who started with 10 posts in 10 diff threads, all identical posts, about a successful broker he was a customer of, and of course, he would do lots of work to help you setup an account...
 
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