Investing Catechism

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Very interesting - thank you very much, indeed.
Will certainly be of help.

Nonetheless there must be a list where all those comp. are listed
which have contin. payed dividends over the last 30 years + (in fact it's said even 39 years).
An interesting item in this respect imho.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/46027262
 
Quote from Goalgetter:

Great - thanks nitro.

Seemingly the names of those companies are not being disclosed.
I dropped a line to CNBC.
Click on the gray arrow on top. It is a slideshow.
 
This man take the sample of 139 dividend champions to see what happens to the dividend before/during/after USA recession.
Very interesting!!!

http://seekingalpha.com/article/294...end-champions-fared-during-the-last-recession



Then from this link above I find "dividend champions" Go scroll down to the almost last sentence; "You could find the complete list here" Click the word (here) then you can see the dividend champions in the spreadsheet of microsoft excel.

http://www.dividendgrowthinvestor.com/2008/05/dividend-conspiracies.html
 
Quote from trendlover:

This man take the sample of 139 dividend champions to see what happens to the dividend before/during/after USA recession.
Very interesting!!!

http://seekingalpha.com/article/294...end-champions-fared-during-the-last-recession



Then from this link above I find "dividend champions" Go scroll down to the almost last sentence; "You could find the complete list here" Click the word (here) then you can see the dividend champions in the spreadsheet of microsoft excel.

http://www.dividendgrowthinvestor.com/2008/05/dividend-conspiracies.html


HI Trendlover -

simply the best I have read for years. Thanks a lot.


Next item I'm keen on are first class options pages for underlyings like FXE - GLD - SLV - QQQ.

But this might be the wrong thread for it so I apalogize if it's too much off topic.
 
"The latest surge in Apple shares [AAPL 500.95 7.53 (+1.53%) ] that’s pushed them above $500 is not because of speculation about its next revolutionary product, but rather the possibility that the preeminent technology growth stock will declare a dividend, or even split its shares, analysts and traders said."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46368505
 
Quote from nitro:

"The latest surge in Apple shares [AAPL 500.95 7.53 (+1.53%) ] that’s pushed them above $500 is not because of speculation about its next revolutionary product, but rather the possibility that the preeminent technology growth stock will declare a dividend, or even split its shares, analysts and traders said."

http://www.cnbc.com/id/46368505

You always look for complicated answers to simple situations. AAPL made tons of money, because they have no real debt and don't really need to pay an enormous r&d budget right now, most of the money simply increases the value of the company.

So the shares must go up, because they are worth more.

Do you understand yet that equity represents real ownership in the company ? And that every shareholder owns their share of that profit stream ?
 
Quote from trendlover:

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Cutten, no. I think his opinion is not saying this company is worthless. Nitro is saying is not guarantee anything to him in the present and the future if he (hold) this for (investment). He is not trading in then out of this stock, he is talking about to hold as investment. The dividend is money in the present he can see and take. So if nitro take the chance to buy this stock, and he know price can go up, can go down, no buyers in the future maybe, but the dividend is real in the present, this is guarantee.
I think he is saying what is can convince him to play this game.

But dividends are not guaranteed. Also, when a dividend is paid out, the stock will fall on the same day by approximately the amount of the dividend. This alone should make it clear that dividends make little difference to the economic value of a company. In fact, if the company can reinvest capital at a superior rate to the investor, then dividend payments destroy value. That is why many companies pay low or zero dividends - they can use the cash to create superior value rather than simply distribute it back to the investor.
 
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But dividends are not guaranteed. Also, when a dividend is paid out, the stock will fall on the same day by approximately the amount of the dividend. This alone should make it clear that dividends make little difference to the economic value of a company. In fact, if the company can reinvest capital at a superior rate to the investor, then dividend payments destroy value. That is why many companies pay low or zero dividends - they can use the cash to create superior value rather than simply distribute it back to the investor.

There have been many studies that have shown dividend paying stocks outperform non-dividend paying stocks over the long run. You are right that on the ex-date the dividend doesn't matter. But what it represents is what's important. It represents stable cashflows and earnings. More often a company with excess cash CANNOT invest it at a better rate than an investor. In fact the large companies that don't pay dividends are more likely to use the cash for stupid aquistitions. If you are a growing company it's one thing, but for a company like MO, all they will do is buy other public companies at a massive premium and then proceed to destroy more shareholder value during integration.

The tech companies are the one exception. They hold onto cash because they don't know where their industry is going and the cash horde provides a warchest if they need to quickly break into a new market.
 
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