Inventory Grab Alert 4/30/09!

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Quote from EdgeHunter:

No question about it...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zeno's_paradoxes

Always Helpful... :) :) :) :D

Three Smiles and a Grin... Top that
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You are helpful Edge and you have highlighted trading.

Do we want to trade to make money, or do we immerse ourselves in paradoxes, somehow lost in the belief that we are reducing risk to within our tolerance levels and that everything will have a happy ending.

On the one hand we can try to reshape trading within our mind in order to drag it down to where we feel comfortable.
In this case the desire to confirm what we know with what we know proves overpowering.
In this case the hare knows that he can beat the tortoise.

And on the other hand we can accept that we know nothing and begin building from the ground up, always with the apex being the realistic achievement of trading for a living and beyond.
In this case the hare decides to beat the tortoise. It is his goal.

How many posts do we read where Posters introduce themselves by virtue of the techniques they have been taught in the outside world, PHD, BSC programming etc etc.

And how many Posters introduce themselves by virtue of their success through calculated risk.

sosueme
 
Quote from Whisky:

I agree with you. In fact, from today I have decided to agree with everybody in matters of trading (in the hope I can reduce the number of hate PMs that I get, and become a more likable, positive thinking fellow that fits in with the status-quo).

As I can't do anything half-arsed, herewith I present my newest trading plan for all to enjoy and perhaps attempt to emulate:

1-I will make friends with Ken More and apologize profusely for ever doubting his magnificent 100% winning track record.

2-I will then convince Ken to let me copy his laptop contents into mine, and to let me take pictures of his toilet and finishings of his crapper.

3-If Ken still resents my past behaviour (highly probable), then I will copy one of the dime-a-dozen hindsight trading methods presented in this and many other forums that consistently make an average of 10-15 ES points per day realtime.

4-I will take a cash advance of $1,000.00 on my nearly maxed out credit card and open an account with one of the fine brokerage firms that allow anybody to trade 1 ES for each $500 in margin deposit. This will allow me to start trading with 2 contracts.

5-I will then proceed to make an average of 10 to 15 points per day per contract. Effectively doubling my trading account once per day on average. The process of doubling size has been completely simplified to dialing an ever increasing digit in the "default size" window of my trading platform.

6-Then, after 50 days of doubling size (and equity), and having run out of counterparties to trade with on Earth (since I took all their money, including that of governments, countries, central banks, and all the other traders on Earth (except Ken)). I will make my master move:

7-I will trade Earth to the martians, and put in a bid for Jupiter.

And then...

My wife wakes me up AGAIN and says: Honey, you are having trading nightmares again, please start packing the bags, since we have to catch a plane. You also have to write a check to pay for the additional vacation expenses that we discussed before.

Then I say: Thank God yesterday was also a profitable day. Let's see if I can end up the year positive after all these expenses.

JW
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Hahaha :D
 
Quote from kinggyppo:

Here is a video which explains why price goes up on lighter volume. Hopefully this benefits someone, if you know market delta start watching around 11 minutes into the video.


http://portal.knowledgebase.net/display/2/articleDirect/index.asp?aid=305237&r=0.5135462

scroll down to JPJ trading room follow up discussion
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I would love to watch this but it gives me a "session timeout"..

The link does not work... where is the parent homepage?

many thanks,

Stone
 
Quote from jfw215:

this was a good thread. that one retard that kept calling qqqq plays was annoying but at least manageable. at some point this thread turned shit...

ken and whisky... please stop posting your arguments here... there's pm for that. i don't think anyone gives a shit that whisky isn't profitable.. at least he's trying. ken, if you're not gonna share anything because it took u 10 years to make it... thats fine. but if ain't gonna say something productive and ruin this thread... why don't you take a step back and literally fuck your own face.

i hope amt will start a new meaningful thread. until then... good bye ET

W
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I didn't start out saying anything negative other than I felt strongly that divergence was a flawed concept. After years of testing I'm entitled to my opinion. Whiskey took it upon himself to jump on me and say I was talking shit (his words- not mine). And I did PM him instead of posting on this thread and his response was if you're not going to DO something for me don't waste my time. Then he jumped on the fact that I took a laptop everywhere I went including the john so as to not miss a trade. This became an obsession with him. I don't know why. When he PM'd me he told me he couldn't figure out how to be profitable.

Why am I obligated to share anything I don't wish to share? The water pump one of my V12 BMW's went this afternoon requiring a tow truck and a bill for $142. Do I expect someone else to pay it besides the insurance company? Why is it on the internet suddenly everybody should freely share whatever knowledge they possess? The truth is most of the people here are real assholes and if you met them in real life you'd probably take a swing at them. Nobody has ever had the nerve to tell me too fuck my face or whatever you wrote, and I doubt you'd have the nerve to do it in person. Why would I share anything with the likes of you or your ilk? That's my point.

Finally, I watched the charts in real time and when they should have been helpful, they were not. Period! Your idea of useful is not my idea because I attach a very strict critical level of thinking and results to my trading.
 
Quote from Ken More:

I didn't start out saying anything negative other than I felt strongly that divergence was a flawed concept. After years of testing I'm entitled to my opinion. Whiskey took it upon himself to jump on me and say I was talking shit (his words- not mine). And I did PM him instead of posting on this thread and his response was if you're not going to DO something for me don't waste my time. Then he jumped on the fact that I took a laptop everywhere I went including the john so as to not miss a trade. This became an obsession with him. I don't know why. When he PM'd me he told me he couldn't figure out how to be profitable.

Why am I obligated to share anything I don't wish to share? The water pump one of my V12 BMW's went this afternoon requiring a tow truck and a bill for $142. Do I expect someone else to pay it besides the insurance company? Why is it on the internet suddenly everybody should freely share whatever knowledge they possess? The truth is most of the people here are real assholes and if you met them in real life you'd probably take a swing at them. Nobody has ever had the nerve to tell me too fuck my face or whatever you wrote, and I doubt you'd have the nerve to do it in person. Why would I share anything with the likes of you or your ilk? That's my point.

Finally, I watched the charts in real time and when they should have been helpful, they were not. Period! Your idea of useful is not my idea because I attach a very strict critical level of thinking and results to my trading.
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Ken,

I overreacted this morning with regard to the f*** statement. I was displeased with the fact that AMT stopped posting after you and Whiskey started arguing on the thread. Blaming it all on you is not the right thing to do.

I agree CDV real-time can be counter-productive, especially if you're using a small tick/time frame chart. The value in CDV for me is in longer charts where it helps me find the right pivots and trend.

W
 
Funny how one of the "moderators" was instrumental in the demise of this thread. I thought that's what moderators were supposed to prevent.
 
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