Inventory Grab Alert 4/30/09!

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Quote from veggen:

I heard back from them just now, and they will take care of this issue! So now I have no more cons with Sierra Charting and cumulative delta, only my data feed ;)
 
I've compared OEC and TA to ninja zen many times on a cumulative and b/a vol bar basis. There are times of small difference but overall they are 95% the same. Also keep in mind that ninja uses bar closing times so that might account for small differences as well.

TA is usually inaccurate the wk of and after rollover.

Last I checked OEC was more robust data then DTN. DTN isn't true tick data. Their cme plan allows them to bundle trades, that may have changed. See if you can get some EOD trade #'s form someone that uses DTN or take a trial yourself. The last I checked (about 2mnths ago), DTN had about 80% of daily trades as OEC for the ES.

Edit - Looked thru some notes re my abv DTN comment. Originally I said 60%, but it looks like it was 80% for 10FEB09. DTN had ~280k, OEC ~353k, ninja ~354k for market hrs only.

Has anybody with DTN data looked into this?
 
DTN "unfiltered" data is excellent........

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Has anybody with DTN data looked into this?

DTN/IQ (IQFEED) for today's session had 222218 ticks. Last week (5 sessions combined) had 1301696 ticks.

D.
 
Quote from manlycure:

DTN/IQ (IQFEED) for today's session had 222218 ticks. Last week (5 sessions combined) had 1301696 ticks.

D.

OEC data

Sunday 18:00 to Monday 16:15 = 224,468 ticks

00:00 to 16:15 = 218,198 ticks

09:30 to 16:15 = 188,510 ticks

Last week [16:30 to 16:15] = 1,287,041 ticks

hmmm
 
Whiskey

Thats what makes a mkt. The difference between science and trading is scientists can hit the other planets with a rocket because the inputs to get that job done are accurate and complete. Just do the calculations, fuel the rocket, light a match and you are on your way. In trading we also know where we want our rocket called price to go but we are not lucky enough to have complete and accurate inputs.

Amt calls his methods by a different name than some others and i have seen his calls about "levels" in former ET chat be very accurate at times. You said you look for "STOPS", ok, no problem there. You see, just you two guys are looking for the same output from different inputs. I myself look at the same thing but call them what many others call them..........support and resistence levels. Ok, we all agree we are looking for the same price planet with different inputs. I prefer to think of the levels as places where the other players in the game will "GET EXCITED" and take action. As humans, we traders are still controlled by innate emotions of "fight or flight" and from "fear" until we develope those trader muscles to play our hunches in a game of odds based in the incomplete and inaccurate inputs.

Thus my view of levels are based on ..........What will the losers do at this price and what will the winners do at the same price? I know what the majority of losing traders will do (you look for STOPS) amt looks at distributions and accumulations), the same goes for winning traders at a certain price LEVEL.

This game is about humans and the human mind at work. It is far less about economic situation and has zip to do with high math except for a few math nerds that do arb etc.

Trading is "LESS is MORE".

Thats all for now, good thread by amt, good to share and build upon.

PS: the shorter the time frame the less economic noise matters. I personally do not think there is any value in trading any chart shorter than 5 minutes. trading noise is a losing game........and do not wish to argue the point. :)

PSS: Daytrading is anticipating price to shoot to the next LEVEL.

PSSS: Little off topic but concerns index traders http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124182728190802535.html
 
Quote from bighog:

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Not sure why you decided to pick this particular asshole (me) to grace with your comments. Thanks for the attention.

I have to agree with basically everything you said. Imagine what if this were an exact science: Who'd take the other side?

JW
 
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