This is a private matter of the climber and of his family. It isn't anybody else's business to judge a dead man, that lived life to the fullest it seems, that can't defend himself, and/or evaluate him in any form whatsoever for whatever he did. Specially if the "evaluator" is by all probabilities and odds, a cockroach in comparison.
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Intrade CEO dies on Mount Everest
- Thread starter turkeyneck
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This is a private matter of the climber and of his family. It isn't anybody else's business to judge a dead man, that lived life to the fullest it seems, that can't defend himself, and/or evaluate him in any form whatsoever for whatever he did. Specially if the "evaluator" is by all probabilities and odds, a cockroach in comparison.
That cuts both ways, since those who immediately aggrandized the nature of his death rendered their own judgment. I never passed judgment on his life. I merely summarized the facts surrounding his death as they are known here thus far.Quote from eudaemon:
This is a private matter of the climber and of his family. It isn't anybody else's business to judge a dead man, that lived life to the fullest it seems, that can't defend himself, and/or evaluate him in any form whatsoever for whatever he did. Specially if the "evaluator" is by all probabilities and odds, a cockroach in comparison.
As for it being a private matter, perhaps we should choose not to speculate about that which we don't know:
Quote from eudaemon:
Maybe the child wasn't even his...
And then, of course, there is the tiger and lamb dichotomy...Quote from eudaemon:
What if he had been diagnosed with a terminal illness...
Quote from southbeach4me:
Its not like he had to go all the way over there at that particular time, he should have waited till the wife gave birth and he should have been there next to her.
Why? In the past men were often out waging war, building empires, or hunting wooly mammoths while the women were giving birth back home. What's up with this wimpy emasculated bullshit about standing around uselessly while nurses help your woman give birth? That's the very definition of being at a loose end, your presence can't assist in any aspect of childbirth, so just let others get on with it.
Quote from Gabfly1:
That cuts both ways, since those who immediately aggrandized the nature of his death rendered their own judgment. I never passed judgment on his life. I merely summarized the facts surrounding his death as they are known here thus far.
As for it being a private matter, perhaps we should choose not to speculate about that which we don't know:
And then, of course, there is the tiger and lamb dichotomy...
Exactly. If I could come up with those two possibilities, imagine the billions of other reasons and circumstances that are possible, yet. I wasn't directing the "attack" at you, but at others passing judgment, on a dead man, that did nothing illegal, in something that really is none of their business.
Quote from shortie:
better live the full lifetime as a lamb and then die as a tiger than live a half-lifetime as a lamb and die as a tiger.
No - because you could die in any given year or decade before you get to have your 'tiger life'. And it's harder to be a tiger when you are older. This guy was in his 40s already, that's middle age, not much longer and he is a 50+ old man.
As Buffett says, don't save having sex for your old age.
Quote from olias:
Not 'everyone' does that. But this a good litmus test for how evolved a person is. The type of people who jump right in and make fun of the guy or put him down obviously have their own self-esteem issues. They need to put others down in order to feel better about themselves.
An evolved person realizes that they don't know his circumstances or what his thought process was and has no desire to cast judgement on the guy.
You see it time and time again on this website.
Not just this website. Every site that carries this story has legions of armchair generals in the comment section, casting aspersions on this fellow.
"Far better is it to dare mighty things, to win glorious triumphs, even though checkered by failure... than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much, because they live in a gray twilight that knows not victory nor defeat." - Teddy Roosevelt
Quote from jprad:
It's okay to be a tiger when you're single as they're solitary animals. But, once you're MWC, you should defend your pride as a lion does.
I feel bad for his wife and kids, but he was acting like a selfish idiot, no sympathy for him.
No he didn't - he acted according to his nature, which his wife would have known about before she got married to him. In fact, knowing the way most women are, she probably married him exactly *because* he was a go-getting risk-taker.
He had 3 kids and probably has left her a fair bit of money, she can always find another husband and the family is provided for until then.
Also, I don't recall him asking for your sympathy.
Quote from Ghost of Cutten:
How would you go climbing Mount Everest when she has your balls in a jar on her mantlepiece?
i'm very happy with the current location of my balls
i have 3 kids and was present during all the deliveries, first delivery lasted 23 hours, we were minutes away from going into surgery, even after the baby came out they had to take her away from us for several days and we could only hold her for feeding
second delivery had some complications too, but not as bad as the last one, where the doctor had to push the emergency button and we had 6 more doctors and nurses rushing into the room to thankfully save the baby and probably my wife too, after that we decided we had enough
in the united states these risks are not that high, but still
look, i love trading, gambling, fighting and all, but he should have been with her at this time
Quote from Ghost of Cutten:
No - because you could die in any given year or decade before you get to have your 'tiger life'. And it's harder to be a tiger when you are older. This guy was in his 40s already, that's middle age, not much longer and he is a 50+ old man.
As Buffett says, don't save having sex for your old age.
Sexual experience has diminishing returns after age 45.