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before I pop across da border, here is a filter for da tread :D

LOL Willl

CF this "might" be of help for the 1 min chart. I tend to think of horizontal S&R in terms of technical levels with a bit of thickness to them... often the thickness is formed by the size of prior wicks.

Anyway, this is what I visualise rather than a thin line like a T/L.
 

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not a very good week this week, a shit load a B/E, 1 win that I missed, no loss.. end of da sucker rally (or whatever), and vola went to hell.. :(
 
Yoohoo,

Will try that. Thanks!

My problem w/ 1min is that hard to find orderly bar sequences there, many look messy and I need to learn to see an order through this mess.
 
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LOL Willl

CF this "might" be of help for the 1 min chart. I tend to think of horizontal S&R in terms of technical levels with a bit of thickness to them... often the thickness is formed by the size of prior wicks.

Anyway, this is what I visualise rather than a thin line like a T/L.

yeah, learn to view S/R as a range too.. but how do you decide the thickness of the S/R level?
 
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yeah, learn to view S/R as a range too.. but how do you decide the thickness of the S/R level?

Willl I used candle charts to begin with experimenting with prior levels and using the length of the wicks as a guide rather than a thin line at the extremes.

These are "zones" that traders reacted to and when in that zone you get another reaction of breakout. A bit of trial and error experimenting should train your eye but if you're still unsure tall me and I'll give a few examples.
 
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Yoohoo,

Will try that. Thanks!

My problem w/ 1min is that hard to find orderly bar sequences there, many look messy and I need to learn to see an order through this mess.

Yea that's very true and I wanted to give you some time to see the answers as well as the problems. You've got to see that something has potential in order to strive for refinement and I said I wanted to give you time to be able to see the signals.

You are well on the way but perhaps it's time to add to what you know. First I want to look more at signals and then much later we can look at noise and trends. Yesterday was a totally messy day on the 1 min because most of the bars overlapped each other so finding a K/R was like looking for a needle in a haystack. Every market has days like that and when you see it, it is usually time to trade trends and postions rather than look for a multitude of good reversal set-ups.

Today had lots of quality reversals on the 1 min and the bars are well formed. The rule was if the 1 min is messy go bigger in TF, but I'm over simplifying it - trends need a different approach.

I find it easy to read well over a dozen charts at a glance because I know how to ignore most of what I see. This is where indicator trading is a big help and your CCI should help you as it usually preceeds PA reversals. Read the CCI Reversal Zone and chill or let trades run in between. When in the zone focus because some TF is going to show it's hand... then pounce and chill.

However the next step for you is to add 2&3 min charts to your 1&5 min charts. If you miss a signal on the 1 min or it's unclear, often the 2 or 3min will give you the trade.

Early today the tick charts were a simple ATM big style, but you need these charts first. Experiment with adding CCI underneath. Indicators allow me to relax, let trades run or play chop and identify positions for messy trends to develop.

You've seen the gold and the dross - now you need tools to refine and speed up your responses. You have fast responses but it's not so good on multiple TF's because you are looking at too much detail. You need to eliminate most of what you see to see the real reversals.
 
Yoohoo,

Your words sound very similar to what I've heard from Banjo. He also uses indicators to keep him in the trade and stay relaxed till he sees a reversal signal...

Guess I really need to work on this stuff cause that's where indicator can help - smooth PA when bars are too messy to read.
 
Catching Top & Bottom Today...

Here's a simple no-brainer eg of how to catch todays top and bottom.

Willl, I've put double lines on the top showing how I use the prior wicks.

A Simple pointy thingy: I don't think Triangles, wedges etc - just pointy thingy's - very simple.

Fluid move to the "Wick-Zone" and a bog standard 18 period CCI is already turned so I'm expecting a reversla candle and not a breakout.

Doji (first traders), Red Candle (next traders), Morning Star (next traders), Minute bar (next traders), 2 min bar (next traders) and so on.

Two falling knife reversals and a good guess that the 1st was not real and 60 pips and very little time it time to pary on up again until CCI is high, fluid reversal and short again.

Yesterday this would have looked like a drunk was painting the candles and CCI so different approaches are needed.

First learn PA on 1 timeframe. Then 4 and then more. THen add an indicator and laern it like you learn PA. It actually doesn't matter which indicator as they all work.. but just like PA, TL's etc. it how you learn to use each tool.

This is a very simple lesson, but alongside this chart I was looking at the TL on the 4 hr (posted earlier) and a pile of other screamer events.
 

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took long enough for the big upside potential that I mentioned earlier to kick in and of course they try and kick you out... but if you saw it all coming it was ATM time again.
 
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