but can enslave you to make more money
Internship From Hell: GS NYC Securities Division
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Few years ago there were several cases of investment banking analysts jumping from high rise building to end all the hell they were going through.
Working hard is one thing but making a poor employee work for 20 hours a day 7 days a week is asking for trouble. Have said all along if hedge fund and others hire more analysts etc. they might end up improving their annual performances........information and analysis on it is the true power !! Multi billion dollar HFs having only half dozen analysts is basically shooting oneself in the foot even before the race has begun.
Working hard is one thing but making a poor employee work for 20 hours a day 7 days a week is asking for trouble. Have said all along if hedge fund and others hire more analysts etc. they might end up improving their annual performances........information and analysis on it is the true power !! Multi billion dollar HFs having only half dozen analysts is basically shooting oneself in the foot even before the race has begun.
I have actually not for many years but I've seen the gist of it but I still believe you still have the power to make your own choice if you really feel strongly about it. It's a cult but it doesn't mean that you have to absolutely join. And I do see people who work in the financial industry who choose to do something more, something more beneficial than just "playing hard" with their money. And honestly when you make more money working in companies like GS, you will actually be more effective in making a difference in the world because you will be more financially capable. It's just a shame that she doesn't realize that.
And as for coming from an Asian family, what she's experiencing is not just confined to Asian children, although might be more pronounced with Asian family, but this is something that's experienced by ALL immigrant children. The parents came to America with all the dreams and hopes and aspirations, worked in menial jobs, putting all the resources on the children with the aspiration that the children will achieve everything that they always wanted to achieve but never could. But everybody's got their own life. Our parents have given us the gift of life. It's up to us to decide what to do with it, not them. They can suggest, they can guide us and show us the positive way to enjoy the gift of life that they have given us but this is where they stop. That's always my view. I make my own life. If my parents have raised me well, I can be successful in anything that I do even defined as in the sense of "money + prestigious company". But if I don't enjoy working in companies like GS then that's a different story. I shouldn't feel I should work there just because... GS's got a lot to offer but if it's not her cup of tea, it's not her cup of tea, period. But what I am saying is that she shouldn't be vilifying GS when it's her that's the problem. It's her who just doesn't know who she is, what she wants in life and how she wants to live her life. GS had nothing to do with that. She's all about "doing something meaningful" in her videos and feels it's GS' culture that's somehow preventing her from doing that. Well now she's out of GS, is she doing something "meaningful"? Has she volunteered any of her time working for charity groups? Has she participated in any activities to raise funds to help others?
On the other hand, even though she's an immigrant, she also came from a very privileged life which she also acknowledged in her video. You think that somehow affluence is something White Americans take for granted? That is very racist and very stereotypical. What you see is just maybe 5% of the "White" Americans. I have personally met many "Whites" who came from very modest means, broken family with even abusive parents, work in very ordinary jobs for minimum wages, and their children had to work 10 times harder to make something out of their own lives AND have to turn around to take care of their parents, help their siblings out and etc. She acknowledged that she didn't have to do any of that. You think those "White" children that you think "take everything for granted" will be able to afford to just throw away this GS opportunity just because they didn't like the "name tags" and the "plastic stools" and how her colleagues spent their money on "meaningless" things? No it's her who is taking everything for granted. What if she is a single parent who has to raise children who absolutely depends on her like Chris Gardner had to do in Pursuit of Happiness? You think Chris Gardner could just throw this opportunity away after GS has spent $10K helping him to relocate and pay him such lucrative remuneration like she did just because he didn't like the spending habits and the lifestyle of his colleagues? Chris Gardner (although he is African American) is an American, native-born American and look what he had to do to just get a job? He had to go through an unpaid internship cold-calling just to get hired while struggling to find a place to live for himself and raise a 14-month old child. Have you ever heard Chris Gardner calling his unpaid internship "Internship from Hell" dishing out dirt on his former employer and his former colleagues??!!
All in all, she is just a spoiled, immature, privileged, pampered, naive Crazy Rich Asian who's actually lived a very sheltered and "comfortable" life provided to her by her very hard-working and ambitious parents and just didn't want to do the hard work with the misguided notion that that will lead to a "meaningless" life. Once she's gone to the other side of what she thinks is the "meaningful" life, she will realize how good she got with GS. LOL She will learn in time...
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You don't get what I said. Her review of GS is biased. She's hating GS all because it's her who doesn't enjoy the culture or actually what the financial industry is because she doesn't know what she wants to do with her life. Has nothing to do with GS.
Tautology.
you hate Biden because you are biased. Has nothing to do with him
What has Biden got anything to do with her video??!!
I don't get it. I don't know why Asians have to do personal attacks to win an argument? LOL Even if I am biased towards Biden which I never said I am not, her vilification of GS is still biased. You need to read what I wrote here:
What has Biden got anything to do with her video??!!
You need to read what I wrote here:
my point is you are saying it’s her bias and not Goldman without actually refuting her points. Of course it’s her opinion. It’s a tautology.
I don’t think her description of her bosses is not true however. Her specific stories probably are and my experience corroborates it. It is what it is. What value you place on it is your choice.
Btw - spiritually fulfilling work doesn’t mean charity or religion. I left to run a manufacturing firm. My products have maks people more comfortable and have even helped save some lives. I also make a nice profit (about the equivalent of a Goldman Sachs partner). I never have a bad day at work, even when I have lost a big contract.
You still didn't read what I wrote. What I am saying is "everything is in the eye of the beholder". There is nothing to refute. You see what you want to see. She chose to see the frivolous things like plastic stools, the name tags, the coffee chats and her colleagues joining in exclusive clubs and chose to form her opinion of a company based on them because 1) she could afford to and 2) she really doesn't know what she's looking for and what she wants. There are good and bad in every single company, many times according to how one chooses to feel about it. I wrote previously I personally think name tags is really a good idea because it ensures proper identification and everyone is evaluated accurately especially when there is so large number of candidates in her case and yet she chose to take it personal and be bothered by it. That's what I mean.
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Tautology.
you hate Biden because you are biased. Has nothing to do with him
And btw, this is off topic but Biden just sucks, plain and simple. Wasn't even elected by a process that is transparent, unambiguous, and consistent so shouldn't even be president.
