Interesting fact about IB

Quote from def:


You're wrong about this. IB is not in the business of being a quote provider.


I give you ten bucks. You give me quotes. Is that not a business transaction?

Sure, it may not be your main business. In fact, you might be losing money on it. The fact is, if someone is looking for a quote provider, your prices can't be beat.

Data fees are passed to a given exchange for disseminating their quotes. IB charges 10 bucks a month for all US stocks, futures and options for those doing under $30 a month in commission. For those doing more than that, IB eats the cost - it is free. There are fees to the NYSE, OPRA, NASDAQ, CBOE, CBOT, etc. Which one of these provides the COMP? Someone has to calculate and disseminate it and pay licensing fees if appropriate. Would you prefer that IB doesn't provide the rebate and provide the COMP, trin and tick?

I do hundreds of dollars in commisions each month at IB. How about offering the comp to people that do a minimum of $100 a month. $200/month? The point is, you don't offer the comp for _any_ price. There was a time when IB had no Level II quotes. Now you have them for $79/month. How much would it cost per month if IB were to offer comp quotes?

FWIW, There are issues that make disseminating an index not so cut and dry. There is no way that IB is going to be able to be all things to all people. If it was a simple matter, it would have been added. In any event, I for one believe that if you are going to actively trade you should have a secondary quote source.

I currently use 3 real-time quote sources for my trading. If IB ever gives me comp quotes, I just might decide to use only 2.

---- And for people who are solely using IB for quotes ----> you convinced me that we definately shouldn't offer such services. All they do is drain resources from those that actively trade.

Is that a threat?
 
Quote from tao_trader:



IB _is_ a quote provider.

In fact, some people have an account with them just for the quotes.

Name one real-time quote provider that even comes close to IB's $10/month market data.

You get what you pay for. IB is all about executions -- don't you think def knows what he's talking about? :)
 
tao.
I think you're missing the point. i'm not making a threat just speaking facts. If IB was in the quote business or if it was our main line of business, we'd charge more and you'd get everything you'd want - maybe even graphs too. However, we're in the execution and clearing business and naturally emphasize and target those strengths. If thousands of people signed up for quotes and didn't trade, something would have to give, we'd obviously have to do something to account for that cost and drain on the system.

You also state that you pay $100's of bucks a month in commissions to IB. If that's the case, you do not pay for data, you get it for free. Please note that IB is just a conduit in this game as it needs to pay the exchanges for the data. We are not making money off of data and given our rates I think that's clearly obvious. For those piggybacking and paying just for quotes, they should have nothing to complain about given what they pay.

Now I'd suggest a better thread which could possibly lead to an interesting discussion and possibly even convince me to push to get what you want. That would be " does anybody use COMP as a trading indicator, if so how do you use it?"
 
I have been an IB customer for 3 years and didnt even know it wasnt available. i guess that says how important it is to me.
 
Quote from def:

tao.
I think you're missing the point. i'm not making a threat just speaking facts. If IB was in the quote business or if it was our main line of business, we'd charge more and you'd get everything you'd want - maybe even graphs too. However, we're in the execution and clearing business and naturally emphasize and target those strengths. If thousands of people signed up for quotes and didn't trade, something would have to give, we'd obviously have to do something to account for that cost and drain on the system.

You also state that you pay $100's of bucks a month in commissions to IB. If that's the case, you do not pay for data, you get it for free. Please note that IB is just a conduit in this game as it needs to pay the exchanges for the data. We are not making money off of data and given our rates I think that's clearly obvious. For those piggybacking and paying just for quotes, they should have nothing to complain about given what they pay.

Now I'd suggest a better thread which could possibly lead to an interesting discussion and possibly even convince me to push to get what you want. That would be " does anybody use COMP as a trading indicator, if so how do you use it?"

The comp, along with indu and spx, is one of the most followed indices out there. It's hugely popular and is reported each day from thousands of different media outlets around the world. Every single broker I've ever been with has given it away for free.

I'm not going to try and convince IB what to do. I can get the comp from a thousand different places. All I'm doing is reporting a fact that I thought other people might find interesting and useful, that's all. End of thread.
 
tao_trader, if that's the biggest complaint you have about IB, then they should use it as a selling point in thier ads.

Here's a real issue. We can't route to the AMEX on ETF's after 4pm. They trade there till 4:15.

This has been like that since the beginning. How about getting it fixed.
 
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