Intelligent Design is not creationism

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Perhaps I should take that as a compliment.
This years scientific fact is next year's debunked theory.
I align most closely with quantum physics, as opposed to Newtonian physics.
You are given light to "observe".
It will take the form of wave or particle for you,
forming the basis of everything you think to be solid matter, with space in-between.
Depending on how you percieve light, you will see yourself as a unicorn, a fairy, and elf...or, as a man.
It is all the same.
It is faith-based perception...a way of observing reality - Light - as you wish.
I simply say, "do not hide your light under a bushel".

Jesus
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What do you mean you "align" with Quantum physics more than Newtonian physics? You do understand that they are both accurate in their relative scales don't you? Neither is "more accurate" than the other. They work on different scales. Newtonian physics works on the macroscopic scale (such as a human being falling to earth) while Quantum phsyics is concerned with studying the subatomic world.

More fitting square pegs into circle holes.
 
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btw...what's with the signature of Jesus? Do you seriously have an identity dysfunction that you actually believe you're Jesus?

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No. It's what might be called a "lesson".
It is a symbol, just as Jesus was a symbol.
It is a symbol that points to the truth.
The lesson is about oneness and unity.
There is one truth.
It also points out that "identity" is the world's main problem.
Unicorn, fairy, elf, man...the world simply can't make up it's mind what it is.
Do you have a problem with me using this alias?



Jesus
 
Quote from I am...:

No. It's what might be called a "lesson".
It is a symbol, just as Jesus was a symbol.
It is a symbol that points to the truth.
The lesson is about oneness and unity.
There is one truth.
It also points out that "identity" is the world's main problem.
Do you have a problem with me using this alias?

Jesus
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Do you actually have something to say as opposed to bizarre random connections of sentences?
 
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Do you actually have something to say as opposed to bizarre random connections of sentences?
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Not until the world is able to answer correctly the question,
"Who am I?", will it be free to escape the world's limitations.
Until then it must be locked into circular logic:

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm schizophrenic
And so am I.

Jesus
 
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You have no idea if these guys have scientific evidence or not. As knowledge gets more complex you need more training to evaluate the facts.

When a court relies on a scientist for evidence are you calling that an improper appeal to authority?

You are not qualified to critique the evidence.

I have posted the statements of many scientists. Not a single person has attacked the merits of their science. We have seen piss poor logic. Mis leading statistical arguments and clintonesque twists of the pure english used by top scholars.

I proffered scientific scholars - your side proffers self aggrandizing appeals supported by inferior opinions.

When you proffer science to combat science you will have a true debate.
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You ramble, and make ad hom arguments (how do YOU know my credentials?), yet my arguments stand.

I await the SCIENTIFIC evidence of a creator/designer, but I am not holding my breath, because you have shown little regard for scientific evidence.
 
Quote from I am...:

Not until the world is able to answer correctly the question,
"Who am I?", will it be free to escape it's limitations.
Until then it must be locked into circular logic:

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm schizophrenic
And so am I.

Jesus
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Ok, I get it. You have no intentions of actually carrying real debates on this topic that could possibly threaten your delusional world of reality and instead would rather troll. Have a great day and happy dreams about unicorns and fairies.
 
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What do you mean you "align" with Quantum physics more than Newtonian physics? You do understand that they are both accurate in their relative scales don't you? Neither is "more accurate" than the other. They work on different scales. Newtonian physics works on the macroscopic scale (such as a human being falling to earth) while Quantum phsyics is concerned with studying the subatomic world.

More fitting square pegs into circle holes.
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Newtonian physics held that objects were real and outside of you with a separate existence.
Quantum physics demonstrates that this is not true.
The universe is not what you assume it to be.
Everything that appears to exist is really inseperable thought.
You can't even observe something without causing a change in it on the sub-atomic level.
Everything is in your mind, including your own body.
As aspects of Buddhism correctly teach,
the mind that is thinking everything is one mind, and this mind is completely outside of time and space.
What no philosophy teaches is a truth that will seldom be well recieved by anyone...

...the fact that this mind is itself and illusion.

Jesus
 
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Ok, I get it. You have no intentions of actually carrying real debates on this topic that could possibly threaten your delusional world of reality and instead would rather troll. Have a great day and happy dreams about unicorns and fairies.
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Does patience mean anything to you?
If you ask a question, you will get an answer.
The question is, are you really asking a question?
Are my answers threatening your delusional existence?

I am not the one dreaming of unicorns and fairies.
These, like man, are forms.
Form and Spirit cannot coexist.
That is the teaching of non-duality.

You want man, but you do not want unicorns and fairies.
So you see man, but you do not see unicorns and fairies.
This is in accordance with perceptions laws which transform waves and particles into what you believe.
If you see it, you have believed it.
Seeing is believing.

Duality insists that such things are "there".
Some scientists of quantum physics know that duality is a myth.
If duality is a myth, then not only is there no unicorns, fairies or man, but there is no universe.
Without you to percieve it, the universe is not there.
Logic dictates, then, that if the universe is not here, then you are also not here.
In order to make the illusion of existence, you must take oneness and seemingly divide it.
This is what you have done.
But it's all a trick.

So what's going on?
It's all an attempt to see oneSelf as other than as our Father created his Son.
It is all the incorrect answer to the question,
"What am I?".
And it requires a split mind, a kind of schizophrenia, to accomplish.

Jesus
 
Quote from tradestrong:

Do you actually have something to say as opposed to bizarre random connections of sentences?
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What kind of question is that?

Nevertheless...

Dualism is the condition of almost all the universe.
The mind believes in the domain of subject and object.
Conceptually, it would appear to those who believe in God,
that there are two worlds that are both true: the world of God, and the world of man.
In the world of man (and unicorns) you believe, very practically and objectively, that there is in fact a subject - you - and an object, namely, anything else.
This attitude was well expressed through the model of Newtonian physics.
The objects that make up a human's universe are believed to exist apart from you and can be manipulated by you...
..."you" meaning the body and the brain that seems to run it.
The body and the brain that you think are you appear to have been caused by the world.
As we will see, this idea is exactly backwards.
The world will end when it's thinking is reversed.

Jesus
 
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