Quote from jem:
I my friend did not make the devil.
So you are denying it?
Not only did you make it, but you sided with it to make the separation "real".
The "big bang" is the symbol of separation, and makes it seem very real.
On the level of form it was so tremendous it rendered an unfathomable force of energy. This in turn predetermined all physical laws and the fate of every cell and molecule, how each one would evolve and which direction they would go in.
Everything that would seemingly occur was set in motion in that instant, and in fact couldn't really occur in any other way.
All the different dimensions and scenarios are simply symbolic of different big bangs within the Big Bang that occured at that same instant.
And even though it was all over immediately, you still have to wake up in order to recognize reality.
Until then, you suffer under the illusion that you forge your own destiny when the truth is that every physical law was already set in motion at that instant.
The mechanism of how the body robots are manipulated by unseen forces is simply a part of the acting out of the pre-determined script. Yet it is a self-predetermined script, as you side with the devil, and not a case of you being a victim.
The script is multiple choice, offering the illusion of freedom. But actually it is still slavery because it is still a closed system.
Yes, you could make a decision one night and wake up the next morning in a different dimension that looks just like this one, except it had its own big bang boom within the whole shebang of the Big Bang...having it's own variation of the script.
So yes, there are several dimensions open to you and you can switch from one dimension to another, but the script is always like a carrot and stick. It tries to suck you into thinking you have freedom within the script when the only real freedom you will ever find is completely outside the whole mess.
What you are witnessing here is like a recording, and it's up to you when you want to listen to a different tune.
The universe doesn't have to collapse onto itself in order to end. What has to happen is that everyone has to wake up, then the dream universe will simply disappear - because an insignificant dream was all it ever was.
To keep you sucked in, the script seems to move faster and faster as time goes on, and your attention span gets shorter and shorter. Until you destroy your civilization and start over again with little memory - like starting a new lifetime.
The devil's script is simply all of time, which is already over. The Holy Spirits script is the forgiveness of all the people in your life - no matter where you may appear to be. That's how time disappears.
The lessons the Holy Spirit teaches leads to the undoing of time by rendering it unnecessary. This undoing is accomplished at the level of the mind - outside of time - and instead of changing time, collapses it.
Evolution and reincarnation are some things that appear to happen within time. They are dreams. Once your mind has learned all its forgiveness lessons, then it awakens to spirit , and everything else is gone except Heaven.
This means that the way out of this universe is not "death". The way out is truth. Truth sets you free.
"Death" is an illusion in which you see yourself leaving your body and having other adventures. But it is still the same dream. So "birth", like death, is just a continuation of sleeping. That is why children are said to be "born in sin". They represent a sleeping aspect of a fragmented mind that believes in separation and guilt. They've sided with a thought system that makes everything small, weak, and vulnerable.
Remember, everything is equally illusory, whether it is as big as a galaxy, or as small as a neutrino - or even if it's civilization destroying itself again.
Preoccupations with problems set up to be incapable of solution are favorite devil devices for impeding learning progress...keeping you in its scripts.
The middle east is one example.
Earth, for another example, was populated by a migration from Mars as that civilization began to destroy itself. So it was an escape from a problem.
In all these diversionary tactics, however, the one question that is never asked by those who pursue them is, "What for?"
Learn to ask "what for?" in connection with everything. What is the purpose? Whatever it is, it will direct your efforts automatically.
If your purpose is a return to wholeness, then forgiveness will automatically direct you to the Atonement.
Quote from jem:
However, I have one question for you. Which master are you serving?
The "masters" that I spoke of are two completely different thought systems. There is a thought system in Heaven, and there is a thought system that builds this universe from the big bang(s) onward. It is an entire thought system built on the single idea of separation.
The attempt to serve both results in experiencing the one that serves illusions, because there is not more than one thought system that is real. The thought system of Heaven is built on oneness, wholeness.
The separated ones are dividing their allegiances between the thought systems of Heaven and hell, creating conflict in the mind. Faith in the truth will bring peace to such mind, saving it.
The truth is, there is no devil, no alternate thought system, and therefore no universe filled with suns, planets and bodies.
And you are not here.
This truth will bring peace to your mind. But that thought will not bring peace to you while you value the devil and it's "gifts".
When I said, "Renounce the world" I meant that what you are seeing does not exist. It's nothing because it's not really there.
So I will join you in denying that you made the devil. You only thought you did, and then denied it. So it does not matter and means nothing.
The world is neither good nor bad, it is nothing! Make the world meaningless, and you have renounced it as I have advised you long ago.
The universe is a symptom that will disappear.
The Holy Spirit bridges two mutually unintelligible thought systems, keeping communication lines open between the sleeping mind and reality.
Your task is to learn to listen only to His Voice, rather than going back and forth between His reasoning, and the devil's logic.
Jesus