Quote from ddunbar:
But here I am though, not in denial of the fact that my presuppositions are untestable. They're just my beliefs. I see design because, well, I believe there's a designer. Circular, I know.
Evolution though, is based on observation that species evolve over time. What's all the fuss about? Oh, that evolutionists won't acknowledge that this process is a function of intelligent design? Oh. Ok. Is that it? So then someone prove the evolutionary process is a function of design, pardon, intelligent design.
Many thanks.
One other thing, Teleologist made a comment about if something similiar to Mt. rushmore was found on Mars, only an idiot would think it wasn't designed. And He's completely correct. That's because we have a frame of reference. Mt Rushmore itself. We know for a fact it was designed. So anything that resembles it must...
So again, where's the frame of reference for life or the matter that makes up the universe so that we can compare this one with one we know to be designed?
The "big bang", and all that followed it, first appeared in consciousness. Not only a "big bang" but multiple within it. And every scenario that resulted from those were played out in consciousness first...in a single instant. Like a 'green flash' at sunset, the instant was less than that relative to the eternal. That's how long time lasted. It was no time at all. That was the beginning and ending of "time". So what you see is all "past". Evolution was one scenario that was explored in that instant.
Deja vu experiences are reminders that you've already been here, in that single instant. What, then, are you still doing here? You are observing that instant, and every instant within it from a point outside of it, outside of time. Think of it as a multidimensional movie house. And when you go to watch a movie in this house, you observe by participation. When you give it your whole attention, it becomes very 'real' to you.
By saying you are observing form a point outside of time, I'm saying you are observing it from your place in reality, from a universe beyond. Like standing on the shore looking out over a distance, imagining what it would be like to be on a desert island out in the middle of nowhere.
Given the premise of the instant in which this was imagined, every moment inside it reflects the initiating ideas. The ideas are all opposite of the world you call home...so it's a bit of a nightmare. Your experience of this 'movie' is scripted. The detail to which you follow the script is exampled in your 'deja vu' experiences. The point is, you think you are making choices, but you are really just observing. So all choices are the same choice: to remain as an observer/experiencer of an instant that is long gone.
Because you were involved in the initial moment, and in the exploration of all it's consequences, and because you are One with all other players involved, you can say that
you are the designer. You appear to be wandering about your design, wondering what happened. The wicked little secret, is that to view this movie, you must deny yourself, and forget you denied yourself, forget how that felt, but feel it haunting you throughout the movie...for this is the premise of the single instant. All other moments in this movie play out that theme, and what it felt like, over and over again.
Because the premise was false, all thought relative to it's construction is unreal. So all form is emptiness, and emptiness is form. It is nothing, and meaningless. Time seems to tick because you desire to observe this movie from the inside. But the single tick is done, and it is long since disappeared. Therefore, you literally do not see anything with eyeballs.
Incidentally, in the version of the movie you are watching, there was a migration from Mars, and a previous migration to Mars from somewhere else. You should be able to find the equivalent of a Mt. Rushmore there. But that would be like spoiling the end of the movie for you, and you won't want to know certain details if you are interested in still watching the movie. That too, is part of the movie, and you are just
dying to find out what happens next.
It's a movie about how 'time' attempts to replace eternity. The movie is designed to suck you in 'forever' while it gives you the appearance of choice. Finding a Mt. Rushmore equivalent edifice on Mars would not necessarily induce you to want to exit the movie house. You will want to stay to find out how "life" got to Mars, and so on. You are free to seek, but you are not free to ultimately find. Because there is but one thing to find, yourself, and the movie is about everything you are not.
The only out-of-pattern choice you can make is to see things as they are, let what is true be true, and forgive.
Jesus
