Stu says: "The trouble with being a closed minded dismissive like
myself, is being stuck with an incapability to realize what would otherwise be so glaringly and unmistakably obvious to anyone not trapped inside that self-inflicted process that
I suffer from."
So you are having trouble with your own rigid thinking, so sorry stu...
Seek some help perhaps with that problem of
yours stu...
Try and accept alternative points of view without getting so pissy, perhaps...
You got it wrong with your idea that ID/Creationism is not denominational. Buddhists show your assertion to be wrong. Predictably you then tell Buddhists what it is they believe.
No, you got it wrong...I am not telling Buddhists what it is that they believe. I am telling what I believe, based on my understanding.
ID is non denominational as I have defined it, as it is not the belief or practice of any particular religion or faith. Buddhism doesn't denounce the concept of ID as I have defined it, it is supported in their belief of cause and effect, and liberation from the process of cause and effect.
You haven't a clue whether the Universe is eternal or not. You have no more than a guess whether there is, can be, or isn't, anything which goes under the general description God or Creator. Boxed in from relying only on assertion, you are stranded with it, incapable of producing anything more. You are shipwrecked by your dogma, which states how things are, without the slightest scrap of practical substantiation.
Quite a dramatic
you statement...
I have a clue, stuey are the clueless one...dogmatically so...
You have no pragmatic workable knowledge based understanding of how the universe works, whether it is eternal, or the earth flat, by only having that dogma for 'ignorant chance', creation and creators.
Cause and effect is quite pragmatic.
t does not however stop you telling me and now Buddhists, what is and what is not.
Will the active practicing Buddhists please stand up and complain.
Waiting...waiting...waiting...
What suddenly happened to your "Cause and effect, cause and effect, the eternal law" mantra. Where did that go.
Cause and effect is exactly where it was, is, and will be. Law of Karma is Eternal.
Right, so now it's back to no cause, returning God's own eternity to your own 'ignorant chance' dogma. So then the same goes for the Universe, with one overwhelmingly enormous difference. We know there is a Universe.
We know there is a universe. Anything else you want to share?
LOL!
Here is one that will really hurt your noodle as you try with your two dimensional mind to grok:
When you go to sleep, and your active conscious mind has turned off, does it die? Is it reborn on waking? Or it is eternal within the span of your human life?
When we turn on a computer, and the computer programming is loaded into memory, is this a birth of the computer's actively running the program? When the computer is turned off, does the once active program then die? Or is it just "sleeping" until it wakes again?
LOL!
The body dies, but the soul does not. The soul takes another body. Why? Because the soul is bound by the Law of Karma to take birth, then bound to live, then bound to die, forever.
This bondage can be broken through, and when broken the soul is liberated from the eternal process of birth and death, cause and effect, Karmas.
Where does the soul then go upon this liberation, this enlightenment? It goes nowhere that it has not always been.
So from one point of view, something changed. Something did change, ignorance was removed, in the same way darkness is removed when the light comes on, but the eternal reality is that the soul itself is exactly the same as it ever was, is, and will be. The soul is now free from the bondage of the cycle of birth and death and the law of Karma. The law of Karma doesn't change, it is eternal, but the soul is now beyond the grip of the law. The enlightened ones speak of the process, which is not fully understood by those yet in darkness and bondage of the cycle of life and death. The soul is eternal, always was, but now the bondage of ignorance is broken and the illusion of darkness and ignornace is gone forever.
Your own assertion for an eternal God, requires no creator. Then an eternal Universe, requires no creator. According to you, those are circumstances which give rise to 'ignorant chance'. Your dogma just bit your ass.
No...ignorant chance is what the atheists on this thread have suggested, not I. I believe in the opposite of ignorant chance, I believe in Intelligent Design. I am not even saying that those who practice the belief system of ignorant chance, and actively try to promote in a dogmatic manner their belief systems should discontinue their belief systems...to each their own.
However, politically propagating their belief systems in the name of "science" and indoctrinating children in the public schools to such belief systems is not fair in my opinion, nor is it right not to teach the children how to think for themselves by offering them an opposing point of view, thereby allowing them to come to their own conclusions.
It's not me who doesn't understand you. You obviously don't understand yourself. I see your dogma and I understand perfectly well what it is.
Wrong again stu...more confusion on your part.
Quite an interesting position that you are taking though when you assert and are referring to me, that you know and understand that
"You obviously don't understand yourself."
Now that is funny...stuey is now the self appointed expert in my own understanding of myself.
ROTFLMAO...
Add mind reader to the many talents of stu...or psychic, or logical fallacy practitioner...or megalomaniac, whichever seems more appropriate...
