Intelligent Design is not creationism

Quite a sound argument really. +1 more sound than any to do with God.

Take a pen write a number 1 on a doallar bill and....you invalidate it. Oh dear.

God at $1 is cancelled at the stroke of a pen.

+1 dollar bill to the dollar bill you just wrecked behold..whatever is God +1 = Gilbert. Praise Be.
So be my guest ROTFLMAO. all over the place whilst you argue God into oblivion.

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Flawed argument that you continue to promote.

Take a pen, write the number 1 on a dollar bill. Does it have more purchasing power now?

ROTFLMAO...

So God writes a number 1 on his hand, adds the number 1...is he more powerful than he was before he wrote the number 1 on his hand?

You crack me up stu, you really do...
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Then it is inevitable that common sense of yours leaves any intelligent designer coming about via your own dogma of ignorant chance

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Ask a Buddhist if the universe is here because of ignorant chance.

Ignorant chance is not my dogma, it is the opposite of ID.

Common sense will lead anyone to that realization...
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Chaos theory, as you are trying to apply it, runs 100% counter to the idea of Karma and the endless cycle of reincarnation.

Cause and effect is the cornerstone of Buddhism, and the cause and effect is unending for a soul until they are liberated from the process of cause and effect...until they get off the wheel.

They believe that this liberation is not achieved as a consequence or relationship with God or God's grace, but through their own efforts. One reason why some are attracted to Buddhism, it is humanism to a great extent with a final destination of complete liberation of the bondage of life and death.

It is misinterpreted that Buddhists don't believe in the existence of God (as they are not limited to the God as understood by the west), they just have a different understanding and belief of how to be liberated from the bondage of the eternal cycle of birth and death.

It is in the definitions which come down to understanding, and you unless you are a Buddhist, or have spent lots of time with them, or really understand eastern thought...reading something from the web isn't really going to get you to a proper understanding.

There is just no need for a personal God in the practice of Buddhism, as that is not what they believe is their path to liberation.

This has nothing to do with ID of course, as they don't have any belief that the world or human life and what happens in life is a product of random ignorant chance.

Cause and effect, cause and effect, the eternal law.



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I don't think you're able to read Buddhist scripts. But here are a couple of popular articles on Buddhism and chaos theory:
http://www.geocities.com/logosbaphomet/gojesus.html
"Gnostic Jesus and The Chaotic Buddhist"
http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/gi_0199-3684511/Buddhism-chaos-theory-share-spiritual.html
"Buddhism, chaos theory share spiritual parallels."

I know it's hard to get out of an eurocentric view but at least you should try.
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Any intelligent designer?

Are we talking about any universe, or the one we live in?

Now are purposely trying to be funny, right stu?

LOL!

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Then it is inevitable that common sense of yours leaves any intelligent designer coming about via your own dogma of ignorant chance
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Why did that word come to mind?

Jesus
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So you've never heard of the redneck joke? How do you know you're a redneck? One of the answers is "if you're your own father" or something like that...
 
Academic Freedom Bill Introduced into New Mexico Legislature

By Casey Luskin on January 29, 2007

New Mexico State Senator Steve Komadina has introduced a bill into the New Mexico Senate which would protect the academic freedom of teachers to discuss scientific strengths and weaknesses of evolution. The bill requires that the New Mexico Department of Education adopt rules to “give teachers the right and freedom, when a theory of biological origins is taught, to objectively inform students of scientific information relevant to the strengths and weaknesses of that theory and protect teachers from reassignment, termination, discipline or other discrimination for doing so.” The bill would not only protect teachers, but also students: it requires the adoption of rules to “encourage students to critically analyze scientific information, give them the right and freedom to reach their own conclusions about biological origins and provide that no student shall be penalized in any way because the student subscribes to a particular position on biological origins.” A joint memorial (a.k.a resolution) is also being submitted to the New Mexico legislature stating support for similar protections.

If adopted, the bill would sanction and protect the teaching of science, and science only in the science classroom. In protecting the teaching of “scientific information,” the bill is explicit that “‘Scientific information’ does not include information derived from religious or philosophical writings, beliefs or doctrines.”

Who would oppose such legislative protections? I will make a prediction: many Darwinists will vehemently oppose this bill, exposing that it isn’t the teaching of science they care about, but the teaching of a particular brand of pro-Darwin-only science. The scientific evidence supporting evolution will still be presented under this bill. But this bill opens the classroom up to genuine scientific critiques of neo-Darwinian evolution, and not everyone wants that scientific evidence to be heard. Nonetheless, the protections under this bill are vital to fixing the status quo, expanding student learning of the biological sciences, and fulfilling the nationwide call to improve science education.

In our present climate, many teachers are intimidated—whether by power-wielding Darwinists or ACLU attorneys—into teaching a biased, incomplete view of the biological evidence about neo-Darwinian evolution. Teachers and students need these protections so that all the scientific information about Darwinism can be objectively taught. For this very reason, expect such foes of academic freedom in science education to come out swinging against this bill.
 
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+1 more than whatever God is.
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No right mind can believe that its will is stronger than God's.

If, then, a mind believes that its will is different from His, it can only decide either that there is no God or that God's Will is fearful. The former accounts for the atheist and the latter for the martyr, who believes that God demands sacrifices.

Either of these insane decisions will induce panic, because the atheist believes he is alone, and the martyr believes that God is crucifying him. Yet no one really wants either abandonment or retaliation, even though many may seek both.

Any attempt to deny what is must be fearful, and if the attempt is strong it will induce panic. Willing against reality, though impossible, can be made into a very persistent goal even though you do not want it. But consider the result of this strange decision. You are devoting your mind to what you do not want. How real can this devotion be? If you do not want it, it was never created. If it were never created, it is nothing.

Can you really devote yourself to nothing?

Jesus:)
 
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So you've never heard of the redneck joke? How do you know you're a redneck? One of the answers is "if you're your own father" or something like that...
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Yes. There was this idea that the Son could be his own Father. That led to the making of this world. It was a very redneck thing to do. Would appreciate your help in undoing it. It's not funny anymore.

Jesus
 
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