Quote from ZZZzzzzzzz:
"Scientifically speaking, we do believe, despite your insistence to the contrary, that uncertainty of quantum events causes point mutations, and point mutation is the engine which generates new information required for evolutionary change.
So tell us how you know (since all measurements are uncertain) that the so called "uncertainty of quantum events causes point mutations" is by chance, and not design...
Amazing the circular logic passing itself off as science...
You are misunderstanding the difference between the uncertainty principle, which scientifically demonstrates the unpredictability of the speed and location of sub atomic particles as they strike germ cell DNA molecules, with the uncertainty of the existence of a supernatural designer.
The uncertainty principle prevents any natural alien designer (space creature), who is subject to the restrictions of the universe within which we currently find ourselves, from hitting a molecular target at a distance with a subatomic particle, so as to initiate a point mutation, because that alien designer cannot accurately calculate the moment of impact to coincide with a desired location in the genome.
Thus, we are left with the requirement that the designer must be supernatural. And, as the supernatural is beyond measurement (which is the sort of "uncertainty" which you are trying to equate to Heisenberg's theory, but which is not the same thing), it follows that "scientifically," no designer is possible.
Theologically, of course, a designer may exist, but that is magic, and it's out of scope of scientific investigation, so raising this as an alternative scientific theory is a non sequitur.
Now, there IS one other possible "scientific theory," which cannot be ruled out entirely, and which "is" potentially discoverable via scientific investigation.
That theory is that a natural alien designer, physically seeded the Earth with life and thereby initiated evolution, or alternatively, captured one of our primate ancestors and intentionally fused the 1st and 2nd chromosomes together using genetic engineering techniques which would not violate the Heisenberg's uncertainty principle, in order to create the human species.
However, for this remaining possibility, there will be some physical trail to follow. The trail of an interstellar spacecraft would be ascertainable by SETI's radio-frequency pattern investigations. Some artifacts of a visitor's presence would be found on the Earth's surface. The fossil evidence would suggest an instant shift from our ancestors to humans, etc.
But, none of the available evidence suggests that man was genetically engineered 4.5 million years ago. So, science has discounted this possibility to a practical nullity.
As for the possibility of an atmospheric seeding by an alien intelligence, well, once again, the question is: where's the designer's home world, and how come no cosmological evidence of this visit has ever been discovered?
Moreover it begs the question as to why the ID community never actually asserts these positions are their primary focus? Why is it always God, that ID advocates appeal to as the only plausible answer?
SETI is the only real intelligent design science currently existing, yet the ID community never discusses that at all. Why is that?
You know why, Z. Because the ID community does not want to find out that we are the product of some alien "natural" actor. The ID community wants to propagate the scientifically unprovable position, that we are the product of a supernatural deity, who created us in His image for a divine purpose.
And, I don't dismiss this as the ultimate truth. But, that's not science -- it's religion.
So, absent some credible proof of an extraterrestrial visitor to Earth, there is zero scientific evidence for a design theory and no reason why the scientific community should be actively searching for one, in any greater degree than with the SETI program.
However, if and when such evidence appears and can be confirmed by a repeatable experiment, I will be one of the first on board trying to help discover how this magnificent feat of evolutionary engineering was accomplished, if only to protect the human species from the return of the designer, which in my opinion would probably turn out a whole lot more like the movie "Independence Day," than the film "Close Encounters" (and, yes, this last thought is my unsupported opinion).
