Inside Look at Rates Charged

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Steve Dillinger

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There is all kinds of speculation / talk about what 'the best rates' are. Who offers what?

I was reading the Government's Brief against Tuco (you can find it by googling ""tuco and frederick provide day-trading capability" (google with quotes).

Over several pages you get a pretty detailed look at the number of accounts / structure / cash flow / leverage / rates etc.

From page 5, 6

"[Tuco] sets the commission rate for new traders at $5 per 1,000 shares traded. Commissions range from $2 to $8 per 1,000 shares traded."
 
I don't understand why you changed the text of the article... perhaps out of disbelief of the rates that really are out there, but I think it's pretty stupid to start a thread like this and then change the text of the document on your inaccurate assumption that the SOCAL District Court made a typo.


http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache...ty"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a

The text from this link says:

Tuco charges its traders commissions on their securities trades. Frederick
negotiates with each trader the commissions that will be charged but typically sets the
commission rate for new traders at $5 per 1,000 shares traded. Commissions range from $0.20 to $8 per 1,000 shares traded.

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So there you have it, someone was paying $20 to trade 100,000 shares.
 
Wow. You are right. I missed that one. $0.20 per thousand. Now thats a good rate.

Thanks for the catch.



Quote from NY0BScalper:

I don't understand why you changed the text of the article... perhaps out of disbelief of the rates that really are out there, but I think it's pretty stupid to start a thread like this and then change the text of the document on your inaccurate assumption that the SOCAL District Court made a typo.


http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache...ty"&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a

The text from this link says:

Tuco charges its traders commissions on their securities trades. Frederick
negotiates with each trader the commissions that will be charged but typically sets the
commission rate for new traders at $5 per 1,000 shares traded. Commissions range from $0.20 to $8 per 1,000 shares traded.

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So there you have it, someone was paying $20 to trade 100,000 shares.
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It is possible to find rates that low with stable fast execution. I pay 40cents/1000 shares +/- ecn +sec + nas fee. Alot of traders are getting hosed out there with payout % and higher rates. I trade about 100k shares a day.
 
Quote from kean:

It is possible to find rates that low with stable fast execution. I pay 40cents/1000 shares +/- ecn +sec + nas fee. Alot of traders are getting hosed out there with payout % and higher rates. I trade about 100k shares a day.
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In the U.S.? Someone posted in another thread what look like all Canadian firms which doesn't do me any good in the U.S.. I looked up World Trade Securities which was one of the firms, and their site was incomplete, and came off sounding like an MLM operation instead of a trading firm.
 
Quote from kean:

It is possible to find rates that low with stable fast execution. I pay 40cents/1000 shares +/- ecn +sec + nas fee. Alot of traders are getting hosed out there with payout % and higher rates. I trade about 100k shares a day.
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But what is your payout percentage?
 
A reasonable explanation would be that .0002 was the rate Tuco was charged and Tuco had accounts (the owner's would be one) that traded at cost.
 
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