Inexpensive Plan To Create Millions Of Jobs

[Sam Mcgee]

Quote from TraderZones:

Perhaps you would care to explain YOUR logic. Illegal means "against the law."

There is something wrong with not allowing illegal immigrants to remain? Why do you think LEGAL immigrants should have to spend a lot of money and years going through the legal channel, when they could just walk across the Rio Grande at night?

Have you seen the complaints from California, New Mexico and Arizona, about having to provide welfare, support, healthcare and schooling for these people and want the Federal government to do something about it?

Where did you come from, sneak in from Guatemala and are now a working under the table as a peach picker?

I've heard complaints about immigrants but I've heard worse complaints from employers who can't get Americans to work and have to resort to immigrants.

Im saying that the main argument used against immigrants, legal or illegal, is that they are taking American's jobs away. If you go by that reasoning, then you are saying that immigrants are less desirable than American born people who aren't working.

Why couldn't we just make a deal to trade people? Heck, we could even sweeten the deal, we'll two Americans south who don't want to work for every immigrant they send from Mexico who wants to work.

 

[Sandybestdog]

Quote from joash99:

I have a better plan
1. Small government
2. Lower taxes
3. Free markets

IMO free markets are an excuse to legitimize companies screwing customers and employees. I have had a credit card with Chase for 5 years. I have perfect credit history on all of my accounts. 2 years ago they rewarded me by tripling my interest rate. Their reason? They deemed I was "in a higher credit risk." A month ago WAMU (after being bought out by Chase) did the same thing to me. Is this your idea of free markets? Should this be legal? Almost my entire minimum payment goes to interest. I will never be able to pay them off. I can understand for somebody who has bad credit, but what about those who follow the rules?

I think that free markets lead to greed, which leads to abuse, which leads to the abused seeking revenge, which leads to socialism and forced redistribution, which leads to the end of this great country. I don’t think highly regulated markets is the answer eaither. I guess somewhere in the middle is best. Just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

 

[etile]

Quote from Sandybestdog:

IMO free markets are an excuse to legitimize companies screwing customers and employees. I have had a credit card with Chase for 5 years. I have perfect credit history on all of my accounts. 2 years ago they rewarded me by tripling my interest rate. Their reason? They deemed I was "in a higher credit risk." A month ago WAMU (after being bought out by Chase) did the same thing to me. Is this your idea of free markets? Should this be legal? Almost my entire minimum payment goes to interest. I will never be able to pay them off. I can understand for somebody who has bad credit, but what about those who follow the rules?

I think that free markets lead to greed, which leads to abuse, which leads to the abused seeking revenge, which leads to socialism and forced redistribution, which leads to the end of this great country. I don’t think highly regulated markets is the answer eaither. I guess somewhere in the middle is best. Just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

your fault for carrying a balance?

 

[Sandybestdog]

Quote from Sam Mcgee:

I've heard complaints about immigrants but I've heard worse complaints from employers who can't get Americans to work and have to resort to immigrants.

Hey Bush, there is no such thing as jobs Americans won’t do. There is only such thing as jobs employers won’t pay an honest wage to perform. Just because somebody from another country will work for next to nothing (sometimes under the table), doesn’t make it right that the employer to do it. Just for the record, I am a 24 year old white male who delivers pizza and then mops the floors at night for $4.50 an hour.

 

[Sandybestdog]

Quote from etile:

your fault for carrying a balance?

How come everytime I talk about me and other people who work hard and play by the rules and then have nothing to show for it, I am told they didn’t work hard enough? Or they should have spent even more money on school or something else like that.

I started a business a few years ago. It failed miserably and I had to use my credit cards to pay the rent and inventory. Along the way I never missed a payment or paid less than the minimum. After I used the credit that Chase gave to me and followed the rules using it, they took my interest rate from 8-24%. I called them and they admitted I had perfect credit history, but said I had a balance, and therefore I was in a higher credit risk. So they gave me the credit to use, I followed the rules that were set, and then they changed the rules in the middle of the game. This is completely legal. Google this. I am not the only one. You will find hundreds of similar stories. Is this everybody’s idea of free markets. Free for them maybe.

 

[harkm]

Quote from Sandybestdog:

IMO free markets are an excuse to legitimize companies screwing customers and employees. I have had a credit card with Chase for 5 years. I have perfect credit history on all of my accounts. 2 years ago they rewarded me by tripling my interest rate. Their reason? They deemed I was "in a higher credit risk." A month ago WAMU (after being bought out by Chase) did the same thing to me. Is this your idea of free markets? Should this be legal? Almost my entire minimum payment goes to interest. I will never be able to pay them off. I can understand for somebody who has bad credit, but what about those who follow the rules?

I think that free markets lead to greed, which leads to abuse, which leads to the abused seeking revenge, which leads to socialism and forced redistribution, which leads to the end of this great country. I don’t think highly regulated markets is the answer eaither. I guess somewhere in the middle is best. Just my opinion, feel free to disagree.

You need to REWARD Chase with not paying your balance. They raised your rate. They are taking that chance so screw them. Just don't pay. Free markets.

 

[etile]

Quote from Sandybestdog:

How come everytime I talk about me and other people who work hard and play by the rules and then have nothing to show for it, I am told they didn�t work hard enough? Or they should have spent even more money on school or something else like that.

I started a business a few years ago. It failed miserably and I had to use my credit cards to pay the rent and inventory. Along the way I never missed a payment or paid less than the minimum. After I used the credit that Chase gave to me and followed the rules using it, they took my interest rate from 8-24%. I called them and they admitted I had perfect credit history, but said I had a balance, and therefore I was in a higher credit risk. So they gave me the credit to use, I followed the rules that were set, and then they changed the rules in the middle of the game. This is completely legal. Google this. I am not the only one. You will find hundreds of similar stories. Is this everybody�s idea of free markets. Free for them maybe.

i know first hand how whore-of-a-company cc and credit card porcessing companies are. they are insidious leeches to economic growth.

 

[TGregg]

Quote from Sandybestdog:

I started a business a few years ago. It failed miserably . . . they took my interest rate from 8-24%. . . . So they gave me the credit to use, I followed the rules that were set, and then they changed the rules in the middle of the game. This is completely legal. Google this. I am not the only one. You will find hundreds of similar stories. Is this everybody’s idea of free
markets. Free for them maybe.

Quote from Sandybestdog:
Just for the record, I am a 24 year old white male who delivers pizza and then mops the floors at night for $4.50 an hour.

So let's see. 21 years old, no track record of success, no college, no experience, no skills who is running a failing "business" that carries a balance using the most expensive credit there is. Legally available, anyway. Banks were so crazed they gave out mortgages that amortizied freaken upwards without checking incomes, but you were too big of a risk even for them.

Clearly they correctly identified you as a major credit risk. If you had a sound business, you could easily have obtained less expensive funding. The sooner you realize the world does not owe you anything, the better you will do in life.

 

[talknet]

Everybody here forgot USA spends $200 billion+ every year on "war on terror".

In past 7 years, USA has spent $1.5 trillion fighting Al-Qaeda in Iraq and afghanistan. But Taleban and Al-Qaeda are stronger now.

Majority of people worldwide think USA is fighting a losing battle with Taleban.

Also why does NASA wants to go to Planet Mars. There is no food and water on Mars and Moon.

I Think Trillions of dollars are spent by NASA for "useless & worthless" space/universe ambitions and travels. Humans cannot live in space.

Also Las Vegas and Hollywood should be shut down because Trillions od dollars are spent for "worthless & useless" entertainments in Las Vegas and Hollywood.

 

[Renegen]

Nasa these days gets $20 billion a year, and their technologies have been key to economic growth. Hell even the internet was developed by the military, I'm not saying spending money on the military is the most efficient way to create technological growth, but it has positive benefits. Nasa has even greater positive effects.