Indicators are liars! Support and Resistance Trading for the S&P emini

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Quote from ESResistance:

Its funny that you say that. I do actually use swing highs and lows also. But havent included those in the worksheet, was actually thinking about that today. A lot of traders watch these fib levels hence why I included them in the worksheet as a confluence.

Swing fibs are more subjective, and depend upon the time frame you use, wanted to keep the worksheet simple and consistent and using data from previous day high and low is a good way to do that.

Thanks for the feedback, I will consider replacing the hi/lo fibs with the swing fibs

ahh.. well i wouldnt say you have to replace them, i was just wondering why you used the daily ones. good to know this. :)
 
An article worth noting, written by a friend of mine.

The Most Profitable Traders

The below list comprises a number of different observations of myself and others through experience working with traders of all shapes and sizes, and is equally relevant to all. Some of the information is rehashed and/or might sound cliche, but here it is:

They are experienced – Probably the most horrifying and worst myth shot out to anyone considering trading for a living is that you will compound millions in an extremely short amount of time. The only true way to make every day profitable comes through experience, and countless hours learning is crucial to longevity of success.

They know the damage they are capable of – Notice I didn’t say potential or profits here. The best traders I know of understand their limits, and seem to focus more on what can go wrong than what can go right. They are not easily convinced of lucrative outcomes, and have a very high sense of self-awareness.

They trade to make money, not to be right – They understand the strengths and possible pitfalls of what it is they do for a living, and use that knowledge to curb their emotional output.

They have an edge and know how to use it – They understand that without it they wouldn’t last long

They have a gameplan, and follow it explicitly – Each trade is planned and opportunities are scouted for before any trading takes place. They steer away from the killer of all killers: overtrading.

They manage risk – Regardless of how much conviction they have on a trade, they will still do what they can to avoid the potential of any losses and understand rule #1 about trading: anything can happen.

They work obsessively – They follow each turn, each piece of info that comes out in regards to their trade, and follow any underlying information relevant to failure or success.

They only access the best information – Information rules in trading, and having some of the best translates to money. Using the wrong information leads to failure.

They think about the trade, not the money behind it - Focusing on money can destroy your means to objectively assess the trade itself.

They are constantly learning - Just when you think you know it all about trading, a new curveball gets thrown your way, not to mention there are continued means and methods to be learned about making money. Even the most highly successful trader I ever knew, a multi-billion dollar portfolio manager, has a team of fundamentalists and technicians come in to train and retrain himself and his traders.

They are active – Activity sparks creativity, a very crucial part of trading.

They have patience – They understand that the money will come, but everything needs to be in place, first.
 
Quote from ESResistance:

An article worth noting, written by a friend of mine.

The Most Profitable Traders

The below list comprises a number of different observations of myself and others through experience working with traders of all shapes and sizes, and is equally relevant to all. Some of the information is rehashed and/or might sound cliche, but here it is:

They are experienced – Probably the most horrifying and worst myth shot out to anyone considering trading for a living is that you will compound millions in an extremely short amount of time. The only true way to make every day profitable comes through experience, and countless hours learning is crucial to longevity of success.

They know the damage they are capable of – Notice I didn’t say potential or profits here. The best traders I know of understand their limits, and seem to focus more on what can go wrong than what can go right. They are not easily convinced of lucrative outcomes, and have a very high sense of self-awareness.

They trade to make money, not to be right – They understand the strengths and possible pitfalls of what it is they do for a living, and use that knowledge to curb their emotional output.

They have an edge and know how to use it – They understand that without it they wouldn’t last long

They have a gameplan, and follow it explicitly – Each trade is planned and opportunities are scouted for before any trading takes place. They steer away from the killer of all killers: overtrading.

They manage risk – Regardless of how much conviction they have on a trade, they will still do what they can to avoid the potential of any losses and understand rule #1 about trading: anything can happen.

They work obsessively – They follow each turn, each piece of info that comes out in regards to their trade, and follow any underlying information relevant to failure or success.

They only access the best information – Information rules in trading, and having some of the best translates to money. Using the wrong information leads to failure.

They think about the trade, not the money behind it - Focusing on money can destroy your means to objectively assess the trade itself.

They are constantly learning - Just when you think you know it all about trading, a new curveball gets thrown your way, not to mention there are continued means and methods to be learned about making money. Even the most highly successful trader I ever knew, a multi-billion dollar portfolio manager, has a team of fundamentalists and technicians come in to train and retrain himself and his traders.

They are active – Activity sparks creativity, a very crucial part of trading.

They have patience – They understand that the money will come, but everything needs to be in place, first.

I'd keep that friend around.
 
Quote from ProfLogic:

I'd keep that friend around.

Yes hes a very talented trader, left a major hedge fund about a year ago and now manages money for private clients. All that and hes not even 30 yet.
 
Quote from Cold Brew:

What timeframe do you watch the TICK chart on? 1 min chart it does not seem to jump out of the bollinger band much at all

I watch it on the 1 min. tinkered with the 5 min and other TFs but for me personally 1 min has proved to be the best. Discretion is a very important part of trading. Sometimes I take a trade with the tick being very close to the BBs but not breaching them.

I like the 1 min because of the very reason you mentioned. That it doesnt seem to jump out the bands much at all....because when it does you know it is very likely that the market cannot sustain the move, and the chances of reversal are higher.
 
Quote from pismo10:

f9,

Nice b/a accumulation today around 12:47pm prior to the 20+ pt emini rally.

Cheers

Pismo,

Support and Resistance ranges (Oscillations) today have created ranges of over 300 points so far. That is in only 5 separate oscillations too. That is a 60 point average per oscillation. That rally you speak of was over 32 points . . . so far . . . and it was only one part (oscillation) of the extremes the ES has created today.

Liquidity and volatility are what makes these charts tradeable and readable.

Nice pick of that bottom!!:cool:
 
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