Indicators are liars! Support and Resistance Trading for the S&P emini

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Quote from verdo:

hello

a very basic question.
about pivots.
for open and close , what is the time you choose? i.e. close 4.15 p.m?
my soft gives completely strange values, very different from you all.
I went on "mypivots.com" and they give the same value like you.

thanks

keep in mind that close does not always equal daily settlement. sometimes the difference is in points, not just a couple of ticks.
 
Quote from bbqbbq:

i dont have the same experience, on a wednesday, but my pivots mess up on monday if they are auto-generated, because of the sunday after hours trading. best thing do do is go to your daily chart of the ES and use the high low and close to calculate pivots by hand, unless you software gets fixed. there are alot of free sites out there that do this.

Yes bbqbbq, that's why I would like to know the time used for close calculation by most of actors.
 
Quote from verdo:

Yes bbqbbq, that's why I would like to know the time used for close calculation by most of actors.

my ES day chart end at 16:15. then a new day chart of the day after starts 16:30, 15 min later. so 16:30-16:15 one half one day one half the other is the full day. so a day actually starts with overnight trading.

phew what a day!, blew right through the support levels after voting started! wish i shorted 10:49 or 11:09. those coincided with a bounce from the 20EMA on the 5 min chart, adding more resistance.
 
Some wild days we are having at the moment. Ydays sell off after the bail out news is nothing like I have ever seen before! My charts didnt have a chance lol.

Just wanted to drop a note to say be careful out there, trade with lower size, the market is very news driven at moment and we just dont know when that next piece of news is coming.

Take care all.
 
Quote from ESResistance:

Some wild days we are having at the moment. Ydays sell off after the bail out news is nothing like I have ever seen before! My charts didnt have a chance lol.

ES
Your horizontal lines are only giving you a part of the story.
Some of them work when they work .. no more no less.

It is vital to read the story and the story lately has included friday setups where the day closes up on the poorest bid-ask spread of the week, thus leading into a sell-off in the early part of the following week.

It is a story, and we trade the story.
We don't write it, we simply trade it.

Regards
f9
(my PMs are switched off by the way)
 
Quote from fearless9:

ES
Your horizontal lines are only giving you a part of the story.
Some of them work when they work .. no more no less.

It is vital to read the story and the story lately has included friday setups where the day closes up on the poorest bid-ask spread of the week, thus leading into a sell-off in the early part of the following week.

It is a story, and we trade the story.
We don't write it, we simply trade it.

Regards
f9
(my PMs are switched off by the way)

can offer any insight as to how you quantify/judge bid/ask spread?
 
Quote from vertigo3:

can offer any insight as to how you quantify/judge bid/ask spread?

Sadly, like all good things, there is nothing clever involved.

It is the volume at the ask compared to volume at the bid.

Either you subtract the bid vol from the ask ............
or you can create a ratio with the ask volume over the total volume.

regards
f9
 
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