Index futures Options - CME/Eurex

cvds16 · Dec 3, 2005

what on earth are you talking about ? which complaints ?
Try to formulate some decent sentences in english please it's very annoying like this (and yes it's not your first language, but it's my third also ...), you don't make sence.
first options are totally different instruments from futures. the most important thing for most people is that they can do decent size on bid and ask, size quoted is often much more than actually traded.
second: the delay can be a problem for someone who is scalping futures, but I doubt this will be for anyone trading options.
third: in Germany as well as in US there are MM.

milstar · Dec 3, 2005

Att:Mr:cvds16

Dear Sir

1.Sorry to inform you from author point of view
most important is legal issue ,if author can not match broker
legaly with assitance of SEC,CFTC,DOJ
prospect of any excessive profitability play not role
2. All e-mails of the author only for opinion exchange
If you will trade FDAX,FESX it is your risk
3. If you send some information Euronext and Liffe ,author
would very pleased for you.

Most important points -Broker,pure agent of principal,which
have not proprietary trading desk .Order routing,handling and
execution .Quote dissemination ,Data Feed .Legal issue.
Experience with options on GMCT(IX) ,LFT(LX) , ala,phg,bp
vod,stm

Your respectfully milstar

milstar · Dec 3, 2005

To riskarb.

Dear sir

Yes about options on e-mini .You can search cme page
about E-mini options report. +40 % growth ES some 3 mln
per year = 250-300 k per month = 10-15 k per day .
But this volume lower as options on ETF spy

Your respectfully milstar

Pabst · Dec 3, 2005

Quote from riskarb:

ES and ER2 do very little option volume, unlike the futures.

Hey bro. I know you've been involved recently with more exotic products than exchange traded index options

but ES opts have had a dramatic spike in volume the last couple of months. (So have open outcry SP opts). Quite often now ES volume is 15k a day.

cvds16 · Dec 3, 2005

Quote from milstar:

Att:Mr:cvds16

Dear Sir

1.Sorry to inform you from author point of view
most important is legal issue ,if author can not match broker
legaly with assitance of SEC,CFTC,DOJ
prospect of any excessive profitability play not role

what legal issue ? What is the problem ? "to match broker legally" is not an english sentence as far as I know".
I have traded options on Eurex, I never had any legal issues.

3. If you send some information Euronext and Liffe ,author
would very pleased for you.

http://www.liffe-data.com/equityoptionslist.aspx
http://www.liffe-data.com/default.aspx
http://www.euronext.com/home_derivatives/0,4810,1732_6391950,00.html

Most important points -Broker,pure agent of principal,which
have not proprietary trading desk .

I don't understand the problem, if there are chinese walls between the proprietary trading desk and the brokerage, i see no problem at all. I have been a mm for a firm in Europe in the past , I have however no problem with sending my personal options-orders through IB although Timber Hill is a big MM.

riskarb · Dec 3, 2005

Quote from Pabst:

Hey bro. I know you've been involved recently with more exotic products than exchange traded index options but ES opts have had a dramatic spike in volume the last couple of months. (So have open outcry SP opts). Quite often now ES volume is 15k a day.

15K/day!? Wow, that's fantastic.

OptionsWizard · Dec 3, 2005

Guys, I assume you understand that 15,000 options a day is nothing. This number has to be divided across all strikes and all expirations, CALLs and PUTs.
Without checking, i'm sure it's way over 100 options.
Trading in ES options, now better than ever before, is still very limited.

SPX options @CBOE are at least 10 times more liquid. I didn't bother checking the stats. This is my impression.

Pabst · Dec 3, 2005

Quote from OptionsWizard:

Guys, I assume you understand that 15,000 options a day is nothing. This number has to be divided across all strikes and all expirations, CALLs and PUTs.
Without checking, i'm sure it's way over 100 options.
Trading in ES options, now better than ever before, is still very limited.

SPX options @CBOE are at least 10 times more liquid. I didn't bother checking the stats. This is my impression.

No one is saying ES options are a bastion of liquidity but the volume for whatever reason is 10x that of a year ago.

Options on SP futures (the CME not the CBOE SPX) are having 40k days. That is decent volume because the contract is 250x the index. But yes SPX is jamming to the tune of a quarter million plus per day at 100x index.