Quote from MandelbrotSet:
You're obviously the idiot here.
He said nothnig that was unreasnable. Your reply, on the other hand, shows just how strongly you "feel" about the subject matter ... despite your ignorance.
1. Cutting back on military is a good thing, since we shouldn't be in the idiotic war anway. We are currently draining the country dry in a WAR which is nothing less than Bush's fist-fight (while someone else takes the blows) ... where did you say those WMD's are?
2. Outsource our foreign policy? HELLO - Lets try taking care of things here at home before we go to somebody else's "house" and start telling them what to do.
3. At least under Obama, the US will have people making more than 250k a year. You can't say the same Bush and McBush, whose plans of allowing these companies to take their businesses offshore (taking jobs from mostly white people), and allowing extraordianary corporate malfeasance. how oh how do you destroy finacial insitutions that have existed for over a century in less than five years?. Hell, those fools took whole industries from white people, which will never come back.
4. And then trying to rush a so-called "bailout" plan through designed to tax the WHO? MIDDLE CLASS AMERICAN PEOPLE (mostly white) out of everything they have worked for!
5. Those same MIDDLE CALSS AMERICAN PEOPLE (mostly white) who have lost a good part of their life savings (invested in 401k's, company stock and company pension plans) of these financial institutious that went under ... due to nothing more than the absolute arrogance and greed of their Chief Executives (who also got, or are trying to get, HUGE BONUSES and payouts as they strut their ass out of the door).
6. Educating all of the members of your population is a very good thing. I assure you these communities don't want anything special or any special "handouts", they will live or die in this world by their own efforts. What they are tired of is the continued rascism, hatred and bigotry as is expressed in your post, and the post of all-to-many of the members of this site.. If I were you I would not complain about what other people might get. I would be happy I am not forced to live in that situation or under those conditions.
7. Seeing to their healthcare is a good thing also. Although I personally don't need it, I am certainly not against government stepping in and taking a role in the matter. Particuarly when those corporations that are supposed to provide for their populace (under the current economic model) are being used as nothing more than treasure chests for the CEO's to loot and pillage as much as they possibly can.
Lets get something straight here. We aren't the ones going from country to country killing/enslaving all of the indigenous peoples that we find there ... are we clear on that hapaboy?
Some pople think war and killing other people who they don't agree with is a good thing, others would rather take a more diplomatic approach.
No.
You are the one who looks like the zealot and the nutcase. Everyone else, (especially the OP) look like calm, rationale, intelligent, non-biased human beings who are tired of Bush's TRUST ME approach to using the powers of his presidency for the whim of his corporate handlers and want the American people to take back their country!
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Did you even take a look at the Poll?
Did you see the number of REPUBLICANS who support Obama's approach to the (so-called) Bailout Plan, which we all know (well, everyone but you hapaboy) is nothing more than a huge money grab by the Captains of Industry who destoryed these companies in the first place!
They know it's bullshit, and so does everyone else posting to this thread (except you).
Thanks for the thread ByLoSellHi, for a minute there I was wondering why I would even bother to spend my time with these idiots ...
No problem, MB.
I am not as hung up on who 'won' or 'lost' the debate as it would appear (although it's clear from the scientific tracking polls that Obama won - Fox News online or telephone polls notwithstanding).
I find the who 'won the debate' debate humorous, and just like getting a reaction from the extreme right wing nuts.
Their worst fears were realized last night: A half black man who only is alleged to be liberal only because the White House has moved to the right of Genghis Khan the last 8 years, and who has common sense, intellect, sincerity and centrism oozing out of every aspect of his persona, proved to the country that he is presidential, capable to be president, and has a more accurate take on the world and the country - and he impressed the hell out of a LOT of people who only knew of him because of McCain attack ads at ease.
It was 'the earth is 8,000 years old,' 'stem cell research is evil,' 'the United States should be a fundamentalist Christian Republic, 'cuts taxes and increase spending because national debt doesn't matter,' 'screw the Jews, they don't vote for us anyways,' 'I make 900 times what my secretary makes but pay less in taxes as a % of my income than her (as Warren Buffet has stated in support of Obama)', 'let's teach creationism in school and disregard the scientific method,' 'let's start trillion dollar wars against nations that did not attack us while underfunding wars against those who did,' 'our party just doubled the national debt from 6 to 12 trillion dollars in 8 years' crowd's worst nightmare - they now know that Obama may very well win, as he should, and their little dream of a Christian-Taliban like state will crumble.
Instead of articulating intelligent policies, and rather admit that the policies he has articulated won't solve our problems, and after picking Palin as his running mate, McCain has lost any semblance of credibility. He's a rigid, out of touch, angry and now
beholden to the least rational part of his base candidate, who can't advance our nation.
Face it, any intelligent person knows the Republican Party is in disarray and shambles, and that it takes a completely fresh and incredibly intelligent leader such as Obama to bail all of our asses out after 8 years of McBush and the Congressional Republican Gang that can't shoot straight had free reign for 8 years.
) and state the facts as they are known, correct any misstatements by reading quotes from the record.