Increases in CO2 - Causes Cooling

Why do keep trotting out this list of right wing engineers? They are NOT climate scientists and anyhow they do not reject man made global warming.

Jem, here the science proving man's release of CO2 causes temps to rise. Are you ready? Here it is.

CO2 is a GHG.

Got it?

LOL you are such a knucklehead. ...................I mean lying sack of shit.



jem said:
NASA used to say junk like that til the real scientists stood up and got the chief agw nutter Hansen ejected....

You think it was a coincidence that right after they ejected Hansen they came out with a study showing CO2 is a coolant and they called it a thermostat?



March 28, 2012

The Honorable Charles Bolden, Jr.
NASA Administrator
NASA Headquarters
Washington, D.C. 20546-0001

Dear Charlie,

We, the undersigned, respectfully request that NASA and the Goddard Institute for Space Studies (GISS) refrain from including unproven remarks in public releases and websites. We believe the claims by NASA and GISS, that man-made carbon dioxide is having a catastrophic impact on global climate change are not substantiated, especially when considering thousands of years of empirical data. With hundreds of well-known climate scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from the GISS leadership, it is clear that the science is NOT settled.

The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate change is unbecoming of NASA’s history of making an objective assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decisions or public statements.

As former NASA employees, we feel that NASA’s advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural climate drivers is inappropriate. We request that NASA refrain from including unproven and unsupported remarks in its future releases and websites on this subject. At risk is damage to the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA’s current or former scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself.

For additional information regarding the science behind our concern, we recommend that you contact Harrison Schmitt or Walter Cunningham, or others they can recommend to you.

Thank you for considering this request.

Sincerely,

(Attached signatures)

CC: Mr. John Grunsfeld, Associate Administrator for Science

CC: Ass Mr. Chris Scolese, Director, Goddard Space Flight Center

Ref: Letter to NASA Administrator Charles Bolden, dated 3-26-12, regarding a request for NASA to refrain from making unsubstantiated claims that human produced CO2 is having a catastrophic impact on climate change.

/s/ Jack Barneburg, Jack – JSC, Space Shuttle Structures, Engineering Directorate, 34 years

/s/ Larry Bell – JSC, Mgr. Crew Systems Div., Engineering Directorate, 32 years

/s/ Dr. Donald Bogard – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 41 years

/s/ Jerry C. Bostick – JSC, Principal Investigator, Science Directorate, 23 years

/s/ Dr. Phillip K. Chapman – JSC, Scientist – astronaut, 5 years

/s/ Michael F. Collins, JSC, Chief, Flight Design and Dynamics Division, MOD, 41 years

/s/ Dr. Kenneth Cox – JSC, Chief Flight Dynamics Div., Engr. Directorate, 40 years

/s/ Walter Cunningham – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 7, 8 years

/s/ Dr. Donald M. Curry – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Leading Edge, Thermal Protection Sys., Engr. Dir., 44 years

/s/ Leroy Day – Hdq. Deputy Director, Space Shuttle Program, 19 years

/s/ Dr. Henry P. Decell, Jr. – JSC, Chief, Theory & Analysis Office, 5 years

/s/Charles F. Deiterich – JSC, Mgr., Flight Operations Integration, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Harold Doiron – JSC, Chairman, Shuttle Pogo Prevention Panel, 16 years

/s/ Charles Duke – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 16, 10 years

/s/ Anita Gale

/s/ Grace Germany – JSC, Program Analyst, 35 years

/s/ Ed Gibson – JSC, Astronaut Skylab 4, 14 years

/s/ Richard Gordon – JSC, Astronaut, Gemini Xi, Apollo 12, 9 years

/s/ Gerald C. Griffin – JSC, Apollo Flight Director, and Director of Johnson Space Center, 22 years

/s/ Thomas M. Grubbs – JSC, Chief, Aircraft Maintenance and Engineering Branch, 31 years

/s/ Thomas J. Harmon

/s/ David W. Heath – JSC, Reentry Specialist, MOD, 30 years

/s/ Miguel A. Hernandez, Jr. – JSC, Flight crew training and operations, 3 years

/s/ James R. Roundtree – JSC Branch Chief, 26 years

/s/ Enoch Jones – JSC, Mgr. SE&I, Shuttle Program Office, 26 years

/s/ Dr. Joseph Kerwin – JSC, Astronaut, Skylab 2, Director of Space and Life Sciences, 22 years

/s/ Jack Knight – JSC, Chief, Advanced Operations and Development Division, MOD, 40 years

/s/ Dr. Christopher C. Kraft – JSC, Apollo Flight Director and Director of Johnson Space Center, 24 years

/s/ Paul C. Kramer – JSC, Ass.t for Planning Aeroscience and Flight Mechanics Div., Egr. Dir., 34 years

/s/ Alex (Skip) Larsen

/s/ Dr. Lubert Leger – JSC, Ass’t. Chief Materials Division, Engr. Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Dr. Humbolt C. Mandell – JSC, Mgr. Shuttle Program Control and Advance Programs, 40 years

/s/ Donald K. McCutchen – JSC, Project Engineer – Space Shuttle and ISS Program Offices, 33 years

/s/ Thomas L. (Tom) Moser – Hdq. Dep. Assoc. Admin. & Director, Space Station Program, 28 years

/s/ Dr. George Mueller – Hdq., Assoc. Adm., Office of Space Flight, 6 years

/s/ Tom Ohesorge

/s/ James Peacock – JSC, Apollo and Shuttle Program Office, 21 years

/s/ Richard McFarland – JSC, Mgr. Motion Simulators, 28 years

/s/ Joseph E. Rogers – JSC, Chief, Structures and Dynamics Branch, Engr. Directorate,40 years

/s/ Bernard J. Rosenbaum – JSC, Chief Engineer, Propulsion and Power Division, Engr. Dir., 48 years

/s/ Dr. Harrison (Jack) Schmitt – JSC, Astronaut Apollo 17, 10 years

/s/ Gerard C. Shows – JSC, Asst. Manager, Quality Assurance, 30 years

/s/ Kenneth Suit – JSC, Ass’t Mgr., Systems Integration, Space Shuttle, 37 years

/s/ Robert F. Thompson – JSC, Program Manager, Space Shuttle, 44 years/s/ Frank Van Renesselaer – Hdq., Mgr. Shuttle Solid Rocket Boosters, 15 years

/s/ Dr. James Visentine – JSC Materials Branch, Engineering Directorate, 30 years

/s/ Manfred (Dutch) von Ehrenfried – JSC, Flight Controller; Mercury, Gemini & Apollo, MOD, 10 years

/s/ George Weisskopf – JSC, Avionics Systems Division, Engineering Dir., 40 years

/s/ Al Worden – JSC, Astronaut, Apollo 15, 9 years

/s/ Thomas (Tom) Wysmuller – JSC, Meteorologist, 5 years



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Ricter said:
The episode of Cosmos I watched last night heavily featured
C.C. Patterson's fight to get leaded gasoline banned. Apparently
the story is the first instance of modern science being used to
deny evidence and protect profits. He fought lead and
gasoline industry scientists for decades to prove what we now
accept as irrefutable and common sense: lead is a toxin.
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Ah ha! Jerm was raised close to main road before lead was banned!

Or maybe it was the paint chips.
 
First of all some of them are rocket scientists and they were backed by science... see the fourth entry below.
Secondly... how do you know they are all right wing.
Third - some of best climatologists are engineers... it does not take much to be a "climatologist".
Fourth - Right after they got rid of the agw nutter who was embarrassing them... they put out the science showing CO2 is also a coolant.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/22mar_saber/

Mlynczak is the associate principal investigator for the SABER instrument onboard NASA’s TIMED satellite. SABER monitors infrared emissions from Earth’s upper atmosphere, in particular from carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), two substances that play a key role in the energy balance of air hundreds of km above our planet’s surface.
“Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.”
That’s what happened on March 8th when a coronal mass ejection (CME) propelled in our direction by an X5-class solar flare hit Earth’s magnetic field. (On the “Richter Scale of Solar Flares,” X-class flares are the most powerful kind.) Energetic particles rained down on the upper atmosphere, depositing their energy where they hit. The action produced spectacular auroras around the poles and significant1 upper atmospheric heating all around the globe.
“The thermosphere lit up like a Christmas tree,” says Russell. “It began to glow intensely at infrared wavelengths as the thermostat effect kicked in.”
For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.


futurecurrents said:
Why do keep trotting out this list of right wing engineers? They are NOT climate scientists and anyhow they do not reject man made global warming.

Jem, here the science proving man's release of CO2 causes temps to rise. Are you ready? Here it is.

CO2 is a GHG.

Got it?

LOL you are such a knucklehead. ...................I mean lying sack of shit.
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OOOOO ROCKET SCIENTISTS !!!!!

The important thing is that 97% of the world's climate scientists understand something you jerm do not.


CO2 is a GHG

Amazing that you still can't understand this.


I wonder why?
 
you have that wrong..

of the 11000 papers only 41 said man was causing warming.
and of those papers the ones I read all relied of failed models.

so in reality its only .03% of the papers and I have provided a peer reviewed paper to prove that number. there is a whole thread on it.

.03% not 97%.
 
jem said:
you have that wrong..

of the 11000 papers only 41 said man was causing warming.
and of those papers the ones I read all relied of failed models.

so in reality its only .03% of the papers and I have provided a peer reviewed paper to prove that number. there is a whole thread on it.

.03% not 97%.
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So what? Most papers agreeing with AGW will not expressly state so. It is now a given in climate science. We went through this how many times?

What's more telling is this...

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So really, it's more than 97%. 97% is a conservative estimate.
 
I went through his list

here is the page with the list... why don't you pick 100 papers which support the idea that man made co2 causes warming.
how about 10. we can read them and see if they have science or failed models.

You won't because you are completely full of shit.
Most of these papers have nothing to do with the idea that man made co2 causes warming.

here is the first 50... from the list...

http://jamespowell.org/DIY/diy.html


A 45-year time series of dune mobility indicating constant windiness over the central Sahara
A Case of Severe Neurotoxicity Associated With Exposure to 1-Bromopropane, an Alternative to Ozone-Depleting or Global-Warming Solvents
A molybdenum isotope record of Eocene Thermal Maximum 2: Implications for global ocean redox during the early Eocene
A MULTINATIONAL COURSE ON GLOBAL CLIMATE CHANGE
A new foliicolous Fellhaneropsis (Pilocarpaceae) from the Netherlands
A New Look at Solar Irradiance Variation
A new targeting method for combined heat, power and desalinated water production in total site
A new time series vegetation-water index of phenological-hydrological trait across species and functional types for Poyang Lake wetland ecosystem
A physiological trait-based approach to predicting the responses of species to experimental climate warming
A protective coat of microorganisms on macroalgae: inhibitory effects of bacterial biofilms and epibiotic microbial assemblages on barnacle attachment
A SAFT equation of state for the quaternary H2S-CO2-H2O-NaCl system
A step-response approach for predicting and understanding non-linear precipitation changes
A study of surface humidity changes in china during the recent 50 years
Abundance and community structure of ammonia oxidizing bacteria and archaea in a Sweden boreal forest soil under 19-year fertilization and 12-year warming
Actinobacterial Nitrate Reducers and Proteobacterial Denitrifiers Are Abundant in N2O-Metabolizing Palsa Peat
Active gas migration systems offshore northern Israel, first evidence from seafloor and subsurface data
Aerial Photographs Reveal Late-20th-Century Dynamic Ice Loss in Northwestern Greenland
Aerosol retrievals from channel-1 and -2 AVHRR radiances: Long-term trends updated and revisited
Agroforestry for biomass production and carbon sequestration: an overview
Air-Water Fluxes of N2O and CH4 during Microalgae (Staurosira sp.) Cultivation in an Open Raceway Pond
Albedo enhancement over land to counteract global warming: impacts on hydrological cycle
Altitudinal variation in leaf construction cost and energy content of Bergenia purpurascens
Amazon's vulnerability to climate change heightened by deforestation and man-made dispersal barriers
An analysis of global warming in the Alpine region based on nonlinear nonstationary time series models
An Ecological Compass for Planetary Engineering
An energy-aware dynamic RWA framework for next-generation wavelength-routed networks
An experimental evaluation of the greenhouse effect in the substitution of R134a with CO2
An impact analysis of landfill for waste disposal on climate change: Case study of 'Sudokwon Landfill Site 2nd Landfill' in Korea
An integrated and transferable climate change vulnerability assessment for regional application
An integrated stratigraphic record of the Palaeocene-lower Eocene at Gubbio (Italy): new insights into the early Palaeogene hyperthermals and carbon isotope excursions
An investigation of green energy policy and its university-level engineering education in Taiwan
An investigation of trends in precipitation volume for the last three decades in different regions of Fars province, Iran
Analysis of mono-sugars obtained by acid hydrolysis of algae-based polysaccharides
Analysis of Spatial Smoothing Effect of Short-Term Fluctuation of Global Solar Radiation Based on Data Including Quantization Error
Analyzing the individual and social rights condition of climate refugees from the international environmental law perspective
ANTARCTIC GLOSSOPTERID DIVERSITY ON A LOCAL SCALE: THE PRESENCE OF MULTIPLE MEGASPOROPHYLL GENERA, UPPER PERMIAN, MT. ACHERNAR, TRANSANTARCTIC MOUNTAINS, ANTARCTICA
Ants on a mountain: spatial, environmental and habitat associations along an altitudinal transect in a centre of endemism
Application of a robust experimental method to study soil warming effects on oilseed rape
Application of Bacteria Foraging Strategy with Constraint Satisfaction Technique for Emission and Economic Dispatch Problems
Application of probability distributions to the modeling of biogenic CO2 fluxes in life cycle assessment
Are responses of herbivores to environmental variability spatially consistent in alpine ecosystems?
Are there any circumstances in which logging primary wet-eucalypt forest will not add to the global carbon burden?
Assessing Coral Reefs on a Pacific-Wide Scale Using the Microbialization Score
Assessing the effects of climate change on the distribution of pulmonate freshwater snail biodiversity
Assessment of Environmental Impacts of an Aging and Stagnating Water Supply Pipeline Network City of Oslo, 1991-2006
Assessment of global warming on the island of Tenerife, Canary Islands (Spain). Trends in minimum, maximum and mean temperatures since 1944
Atmospheric corrosion of metals in 2010-2039 and 2070-2099
Atmospheric impact on the northwestern Pacific under a global warming scenario
Behavioral adjustments of a pipefish to bacterial Vibrio challenge
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but... Here is a list of

1350+ Peer-Reviewed Papers Supporting Skeptic Arguments Against ACC/AGW Alarmism

http://www.populartechnology.net/200...upporting.html
 
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