Increases in CO2 - Causes Cooling

[futurecurrents]

Loss of Biodiversity
Species loss and endangerment is rising along with global temperatures. As many as 30 percent of plant and animal species alive today risk extinction by 2050 if average temperatures rise more than 2 to 11.5 degrees F (1.1 to 6.4 degrees C) [sources: EPA , Scientific American ]. Such extinctions will be due to loss of habitat through desertification, deforestation and ocean warming, as well as the inability to adapt to climate warming. Wildlife researchers have noted some of the more resilient species migrating to the poles, far north and far south to maintain their needed habitat; the red fox, for example, normally an inhabitant of North America , is now seen living in the Arctic.

Humans also aren't immune to the threat. Desertification and rising sea levels threaten human habitats. And when plants and animals are lost to climate change, human food, fuel and income are lost as well.

http://www.discovery.com/tv-shows/curiosity/topics/worst-effects-global-warming.htm

 

[Ricter]

your continental weather is typically hot summers and cold winters.
so I will call that normal weather. .

Normal here for July 16 is a high of 23C. It was 32C. That was not a record for Calgary, but elsewhere in Alberta several high temp records were broken. Osoyoos was 40C, their normal for yesterday is 27C.

 

[jem]

1. some studies show there is about a 9 year lag.
2. within the larger sun's energy cycle you still have tide cycles that cause warming and cooling like el nino.
3. we recent peaked on a small cycle within the larger sun cycle... now it looks like were are heading towards a sun minimum.
4. the earth temperature as measured typically by science... air over land temps... has not gone up for over 17.5 years even though co2 is up massively.
5. the sun is not the only "forcing" on global temperature.
6. CO2 could have an impact... unfortunately no studies have shown that man made co2 causes warming (other than studies with now failed models). But, you will be pleased to know we don't have to rule out CO2 having an impact just yet, we just have to wait for some science.

My concern is that once there is this much co2 in the air co2 because more of a shield rather more of a blanket.

The sun has been cooling off for the last thirty years and temps have still been rising.

You psychotic lying sack of shit.

 

[jem]

cmon... we are screwing around with isolated temps... but I will play.
so is it unusual for there to be warm temps somewhere in the world during the summer?

Normal here for July 16 is a high of 23C. It was 32C. That was not a record for Calgary, but elsewhere in Alberta several high temp records were broken. Osoyoos was 40C, their normal for yesterday is 27C.

 

[futurecurrents]

1. some studies show there is about a 9 year lag.
2. within the larger sun's energy cycle you still have tide cycles that cause warming and cooling like el nino.
3. we recent peaked on a small cycle within the larger sun cycle... now it looks like were are heading towards a sun minimum.
4. the earth temperature as measured typically by science... air over land temps... has not gone up for over 17.5 years even though co2 is up massively.
5. the sun is not the only "forcing" on global temperature.
6. CO2 could have an impact... unfortunately no studies have shown that man made co2 causes warming (other than studies with now failed models). But, you will be pleased to know we don't have to rule out CO2 having an impact just yet, we just have to wait for some science.

My concern is that once there is this much co2 in the air co2 because more of a shield rather more of a blanket.

1. You're a psychotic sack of lying shit.

No other numbers are needed.

 

[futurecurrents]

Apparently jerm is OK with this.....


Conflicts and War
Declining amounts of quality food, water and land may be leading to an increase in global security threats, conflict and war.

National security experts analyzing the current conflict in Sudan's Darfur region suggest that while global warming is not the sole cause of the crisis, its roots may be traced to the impact of climate change, specifically the reduction of available natural resources [source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer ]. The violence in Darfur broke out during a time of drought, after two decades of little-to-no rain along with rising temperatures in the nearby Indian Ocean.

Scientists and military analysts alike are theorizing climate change and its consequences such as food and water instability pose threats for war and conflict, suggesting that violence and ecological crises are entangled. Countries suffering from water shortages and crop loss become vulnerable to security trouble, including regional instability, panic and aggression.

 

[futurecurrents]

The funny thing is jerm. It doesn't matter what delusions you have. The debate is over.

You really sound like one of those guys who still argue the earth is flat. Flip city man.

 

[Ricter]

cmon... we are screwing around with isolated temps... but I will play.
so is it unusual for there to be warm temps somewhere in the world during the summer?

You just got done saying continental interiors are warm in the summer and cold in the winter, so yesterday's highs here were "normal". They were not. But sure, we're just talking about one place's weather. Like, Mobile, AL.

 

[jem]

fraudcurrents the moron troll strikes again... co2 is plant food.
NASA has studies showing more co2 causes greening and more food.
We have satellite pictures showing the earth greening... right now.
Yields for crops have been going up.

Note to the the troll... if you present science showing man made co2 is causing warming that is not based on models I will include such a fact in my statements.
I will modify my statements to always be consistent with the facts that I know. I do not knowing lie about facts. Even pretending there is global cooling is difficult for me... I have to post giveaways to my real position.... science does not know.

Apparently jerm is OK with this.....


Conflicts and War
Declining amounts of quality food, water and land may be leading to an increase in global security threats, conflict and war.

National security experts analyzing the current conflict in Sudan's Darfur region suggest that while global warming is not the sole cause of the crisis, its roots may be traced to the impact of climate change, specifically the reduction of available natural resources [source: Seattle Post-Intelligencer ]. The violence in Darfur broke out during a time of drought, after two decades of little-to-no rain along with rising temperatures in the nearby Indian Ocean.

Scientists and military analysts alike are theorizing climate change and its consequences such as food and water instability pose threats for war and conflict, suggesting that violence and ecological crises are entangled. Countries suffering from water shortages and crop loss become vulnerable to security trouble, including regional instability, panic and aggression.

 

[jem]

I stated... when you speak of warming its weather and when I speak of cooling its global cooling. Surely you get that I was joking around.

You just got done saying continental interiors are warm in the summer and cold in the winter, so yesterday's highs here were "normal". They were not. But sure, we're just talking about one place's weather. Like, Mobile, AL.