Increased demand for stocks and its effect on the stock market.

Cool charts. Looks like good analytics you can do with those tools.

The bid is being spread around ES, SPY, components, and dark pool.

AMD is (competing with other issues) as a potential source of liquidity for cash and carry arbitrage. I'm saying that the new market structure has many uses for a stock like AMD as a short (building synthetic index portfolios). Liquidity is provided where it is anticipated to be needed.

The cash buyers of AMD are much smaller in the grand scheme of things.

So it's tough to get an accurate image of supply demand except perhaps through price action.
 
The whole system is dependent on arbitrage. Knowing how much of it is happening, and with what instruments, is the only real way to measure supply/demand IMO.

Knowing how a generic portfolio (28% SPX, 72% Long Dated Bonds) is performing will tell you what fund managers are likely to do. Just my opinion.
 
One thing is puzzling to me is that the balance of offer vs bid size consistently has offer size larger in aggregate. Why is that the case
Interesting question. I see a lot of patterns in real estate + stock market. IN REAL estate, an appraiser said ''ask price tells you what it is NOT worth'' [huge bid ask spread, thru MLS, but can be worth it ]LOL. BUT in stocks, the trend is your friend+ if I cant get in in my price in a certain amount of time,may get in @ market. With liquid stuff in a good trend, penny bid /ask '' free ''commissions...……………………………………………………………………………………..
 
So it's tough to get an accurate image of supply demand except perhaps through price action.
%% Good points.
Because even if/when something works 80% +/of the time, like NYSE short selling ratio;
they are not predictors also. Fundamentals, such as tek sector QQQ can help some; if someone does not mind more of a roller caster stuff .
In other words fortunes have been made in oil stocks, but they tend to trend so very different, so that's what I mean by fundamentals help some...........................................................................................................
 
From what I am told retail is but a grain of sand...My personal belief is that Retail is money for the taking by the Smart money.

Hi all,

Is actual demand for stocks something people consider in their fundamental analysis of the market?

I don't know about the US or the rest of the world, but I know that in Norway, people traditionally have NOT been investing/saving in stocks. This have changed significantly for the last few years and now you have regular people actually saving in stocks for their pension on a monthly basis. I personally believe this is a trend which will continue and certainly so if we don't have a crash anytime soon.

Even my own girlfriend (hell, her mother also actually) who knows nothing about stocks are now saving in global index funds every month. Regardless of where the S&P is - a set amount of money is invested each month.

Increased demand for stocks means higher prices. And an increasingly large number of people seems to think that a dip is a great way to get in on a bargain as they're saving for the long run.

IMO, no matter our perception of pricing or general economics, the markets are 'rigged' to the upside and history shows us that the stock market is biased to the upside.

I'm not sure I've seen this discussed on ET, so I figured I should bring it up as the markets once again are printing ATHs and people once again are calling for a top or even a crash. Disclaimer: I'm not either a perma-bull or perma-bear.

Regards.
 
From what I am told retail is but a grain of sand...My personal belief is that Retail is money for the taking by the Smart money.

Correct, ALL of the smart money, year on year make money, only place said money can come from is Retail, Millions of us losing small to large amounts which basically pay for there Ferrari's.

They fight among themselves to take more of the retail losses, nothing more.
 
I am not talking about a few rich dentists going all in at a market top, but the net effect of a significant number (and increasingly so) of people saving in stocks on a monthly basis.

But it may be that the aggregate sum of these individuals are still not a significant influence, although they should exert at least some buying pressure/price support.
 
I am not talking about a few rich dentists going all in at a market top, but the net effect of a significant number (and increasingly so) of people saving in stocks on a monthly basis.

But it may be that the aggregate sum of these individuals are still not a significant influence, although they should exert at least some buying pressure/price support.
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Exactly;
on QQQ for example on my charts, I never try to figure out what part of 20-25 million@ dav volume is elephants, turtles, or retail- but that's just me. Like IBD noted ,as a figure of speech= you can always tell if an elephant gets in a bathtub LOL:caution::caution:.:D:D:D:D:D:D
 
Hi all,

Is actual demand for stocks something people consider in their fundamental analysis of the market?

I don't know about the US or the rest of the world, but I know that in Norway, people traditionally have NOT been investing/saving in stocks. This have changed significantly for the last few years and now you have regular people actually saving in stocks for their pension on a monthly basis. I personally believe this is a trend which will continue and certainly so if we don't have a crash anytime soon.

Even my own girlfriend (hell, her mother also actually) who knows nothing about stocks are now saving in global index funds every month. Regardless of where the S&P is - a set amount of money is invested each month.

Increased demand for stocks means higher prices. And an increasingly large number of people seems to think that a dip is a great way to get in on a bargain as they're saving for the long run.

IMO, no matter our perception of pricing or general economics, the markets are 'rigged' to the upside and history shows us that the stock market is biased to the upside.

I'm not sure I've seen this discussed on ET, so I figured I should bring it up as the markets once again are printing ATHs and people once again are calling for a top or even a crash. Disclaimer: I'm not either a perma-bull or perma-bear.

Regards.


it's very unlikely demand from retail have any matter.
Maybe people didn't invest directly but still were invested indirectly through pension plans.
I have education plan for children which is 100% in stocks and I put some small amount every month. And I have it like that for 10 years.
It grew a lot. Although mutual fund fees ate a lot too

And flows show no money new from retails and will likely won't be unless stocks shoot up like supernova like 1998-2000 which is possible but not probable
demography doesn't support it and 10 % of the upper class already own 99% of stocks

those monthly retail middle class purchases don't move a needle

buybacks and central bank purchases dwarf it
 
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