In their own words
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In an interview three years after they liberated Kuwait (while Secretary of Defense under President George Bush Sr.) Dick Cheney had this to say about invading Iraq...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
"...If we'd gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn't have been anybody else with us. There would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq... Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place?
"...That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it - eastern Iraq - the Iranians would like to claim, they fought over it for eight years. In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey.
"...It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.
"...The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families - it wasn't a cheap war... And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many....â
--Dick Cheney 1994
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I
"...If we'd gone to Baghdad we would have been all alone. There wouldn't have been anybody else with us. There would have been a U.S. occupation of Iraq... Once you got to Iraq and took it over, took down Saddam Hussein's government, then what are you going to put in its place?
"...That's a very volatile part of the world, and if you take down the central government of Iraq, you could very easily end up seeing pieces of Iraq fly off: part of it, the Syrians would like to have to the west, part of it - eastern Iraq - the Iranians would like to claim, they fought over it for eight years. In the north you've got the Kurds, and if the Kurds spin loose and join with the Kurds in Turkey, then you threaten the territorial integrity of Turkey.
"...It's a quagmire if you go that far and try to take over Iraq.
"...The other thing was casualties. Everyone was impressed with the fact we were able to do our job with as few casualties as we had. But for the 146 Americans killed in action, and for their families - it wasn't a cheap war... And the question for the president, in terms of whether or not we went on to Baghdad, took additional casualties in an effort to get Saddam Hussein, was how many additional dead Americans is Saddam worth? Our judgment was, not very many....â
--Dick Cheney 1994
From DailyKOS, who recently hosted an event that Hillary and Obama joyfully attended:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/31/11194/0791
Magna
Administrator
Appearing by phone on "The Rush Limbaugh Show," President Bushâs chief political strategist Karl Rove slammed Bushâs critics as "elite, effete snobs.â Discussing this approach of attacking people comedian Bill Maher said...
"By now you've heard the constant right-wing attacks on the "elite"... they've had it up to their red necks with the "elite media." The "liberal elite." Who may or may not be part of the "Washington elite." A subset of the "East Coast elite." Which is influenced by "the Hollywood elite." So basically, unless you're a shitkicker from Kansas, you're with the terrorists.
"I don't get it: In other fields -- outside of government -- elite is a good thing, like an elite fighting force. Tiger Woods is an elite golfer. If I need brain surgery, I'd like an elite doctor. But in politics, elite is bad... When the anti-elite crowd demonizes the elite, what they're actually doing is embracing incompetence."
"By now you've heard the constant right-wing attacks on the "elite"... they've had it up to their red necks with the "elite media." The "liberal elite." Who may or may not be part of the "Washington elite." A subset of the "East Coast elite." Which is influenced by "the Hollywood elite." So basically, unless you're a shitkicker from Kansas, you're with the terrorists.
"I don't get it: In other fields -- outside of government -- elite is a good thing, like an elite fighting force. Tiger Woods is an elite golfer. If I need brain surgery, I'd like an elite doctor. But in politics, elite is bad... When the anti-elite crowd demonizes the elite, what they're actually doing is embracing incompetence."
Why is Giuliani the front runner according to mainstream moonbats? Because Republicans hate black people:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/24/0339/25994
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2007/8/24/0339/25994
Magna
Administrator
With Attorney General Alberto Gonzales resigning all the sound bites are quoting the various government and congressional figures. As expected, the Republicans are uniformly praising him and blaming, in the words of Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, the "poisonous partisanship". On the other side the Democrats are uniformly condemning him and the job he did, with presidential candidate John Edwards summing up his exit, "Better late than never." But I thought the most interesting comment of all came from Gonzales himself, as the nation's first Hispanic Attorney General reflected on how far things have come in his lifetime...
"I have lived the American dream. Even my worst days as Attorney General have been better than my father's best days."
"I have lived the American dream. Even my worst days as Attorney General have been better than my father's best days."
Here's a gem:
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And if any news reporters here are wondering what's wrong with this picture, they should tune <A href="http://www.thedissidentfrogman.com/blog/link/like-a-suppository-only-stronger/">into this helpful instructional video</a>. Several times, if needed.
god in heaven.... she is beautiful.
Sequester 50 of the most influential liberal intellectuals in this country and ask them the same question, I bet they would not emerge with a more coherent answer.
Sequester 3 rednecks, the majority will arrive at the right answer, WE ARE BEING INVADED.
Magna
Administrator
From an ABC News story...
Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, strongly asserted this afternoon that he is not gay and that his decision to plead guilty was affected by a "witch hunt" carried out by an Idaho newspaper when he was arrested in June on charges of lewd conduct in a men's restroom at the Minneapolis, Minn, airport.
"I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis airport. I regret my decision to plead guilty... While I was not involved in any inappropriate conduct at the Minneapolis airport or anywhere else, I chose to plead guilty to a lesser charge in the hope of making it go away."
Craig's colleagues in the Senate, including Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Republican Whip Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi, had earlier described his arrest as a "serious matter" and recommended that the incident be reported to the Senate Ethics Committee for its review.
Sen. Larry Craig, R-Idaho, strongly asserted this afternoon that he is not gay and that his decision to plead guilty was affected by a "witch hunt" carried out by an Idaho newspaper when he was arrested in June on charges of lewd conduct in a men's restroom at the Minneapolis, Minn, airport.
"I did nothing wrong at the Minneapolis airport. I regret my decision to plead guilty... While I was not involved in any inappropriate conduct at the Minneapolis airport or anywhere else, I chose to plead guilty to a lesser charge in the hope of making it go away."
Craig's colleagues in the Senate, including Republican Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Republican Whip Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi, had earlier described his arrest as a "serious matter" and recommended that the incident be reported to the Senate Ethics Committee for its review.