In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

[Tsing Tao]

If you don't like the Worldmeters data than you can go directly to the Norwegian Institute of Public Health COVID website, go down to their section on weekly/daily deaths and view your selection (in Norwegian). The data matches the other major data collection websites.
https://www.fhi.no/en/id/infectious-diseases/coronavirus/daily-reports/daily-reports-COVID19/
or you can go to the WHO website for Norway for clear charts in English
https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/no

Similarly for Finland you can go to the Finish Institute for Health and Welfare website and navigate within the Finish language sections
https://thl.fi/en/web/infectious-di...atest-updates/situation-update-on-coronavirus
or you can go to the WHO website for Finland for clear charts in English.
https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/fi

Great! This is what I was asking for - another data source you are using to make your claim. Since you claimed there was a problem with Worldometers, you can't turn around and use it as a source when you want. Glad you finally understand this. So finally, lets look at the data.

Unfortunately, the Sweden WHO site also shows a lot less deaths listed than you reported as well. So we're back to the same source saying the numbers don't match your claim. In fact, this has Sweden's weekly death count at a mere 25 deaths in the last 7 days. Norway and Finland show a good deal more than that in the past month. So your claim is still incorrect.

https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/se

You can't take one data source that has a favorable number for your narrative from one place, and another from another place whilst simultaneously ignoring the opposite data from both sources.

That's called Cherry Picking.

 

[Cuddles]

Why are we still talking Sweden when the remain open country to follow is Brazil? Sweden did a 180 on health policy several weeks ago.

 

[wrbtrader]

Why are we still talking Sweden when the remain open country to follow is Brazil? Sweden did a 180 on health policy several weeks ago.

Some in this thread not able to acknowledge nor admit about such...they even refuse to complain about the growing restrictions and oblivious to the fact that Sweden is thinking about its first LockDown.

• Some did scatter (ran away) after Sweden passed a law a few months ago that would allow it to do a lockdown if/when needed.

Yet, in contrast, in the other Sweden thread...they seem to realize what has been happening in Sweden...

They too can not deal with it and prefer to bitch about restrictions, lockdowns in other countries.

Psychotic

wrbtrader

 

[jem]

did Sweden lockdown several weeks ago? That would be a 180.

Why are we still talking Sweden when the remain open country to follow is Brazil? Sweden did a 180 on health policy several weeks ago.

 

[gwb-trading]

Great! This is what I was asking for - another data source you are using to make your claim. Since you claimed there was a problem with Worldometers, you can't turn around and use it as a source when you want. Glad you finally understand this. So finally, lets look at the data.

Unfortunately, the Sweden WHO site also shows a lot less deaths listed than you reported as well. So we're back to the same source saying the numbers don't match your claim. In fact, this has Sweden's weekly death count at a mere 25 deaths in the last 7 days. Norway and Finland show a good deal more than that in the past month. So your claim is still incorrect.

https://covid19.who.int/region/euro/country/se

You can't take one data source that has a favorable number for your narrative from one place, and another from another place whilst simultaneously ignoring the opposite data from both sources.

That's called Cherry Picking.

Why don’t you just use the WHO website for all three countries so you can stop your cherry picking claims.

Then you can review this thread again for information about Sweden’s daily reports and later allocation by date as well as their data delays.

 

[gwb-trading]

did Sweden lockdown several weeks ago? That would be a 180.

Guess you have been ignoring all the posts in this thread about all the increasing restrictions Sweden has put in place.

 

[jem]

Guess you have been ignoring all the posts in this thread about all the increasing restrictions Sweden has put in place.

Your guess is incorrect.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Why don’t you just use the WHO website for all three countries so you can stop your cherry picking claims.

Then you can review this thread again for information about Sweden’s daily reports and later allocation by date as well as their data delays.

I did use the WHO site for all three countries. Then I noted (again, mind you) that your comment about how border countries had less deaths in a month than Sweden had in a week was incorrect.

That's really the whole point - stop making hyperbolic bullshit statements if you don't want to be called out on them. Instead, just make the argument that Sweden is worse off than its neighbors, which is a correct statement. Their numbers are worse than their border countries. Can't argue against this at all.

 

[gwb-trading]

I did use the WHO site for all three countries. Then I noted (again, mind you) that your comment about how border countries had less deaths in a month than Sweden had in a week was incorrect.

That's really the whole point - stop making hyperbolic bullshit statements if you don't want to be called out on them. Instead, just make the argument that Sweden is worse off than its neighbors, which is a correct statement. Their numbers are worse than their border countries. Can't argue against this at all.

Let's see you numbers.... add up the totals for Sweden for a week and the totals for Norway and Sweden for a month. Show us the math you claimed to have done. Otherwise we can only assume you are wrong.

 

[Tsing Tao]

Let's see you numbers.... add up the totals for Sweden for a week and the totals for Norway and Sweden for a month. Show us the math you claimed to have done. Otherwise we can only assume you are wrong.

It should be you who does this, since you are the one that made the bogus claim, but Ok. I've no doubt you'll come up with some excuse why the data isn't to be trusted, or the goal posts need to be moved. Or Trump.

As of today, the WHO website you provided shows Sweden had, from March 25 to March 31st (7 day) deaths of 28.

As of today, the WHO website you provided shows Finland had, from Feb 28 to March 31st (1 month) deaths of 84.

Since 84 is greater than 28, I can only rate your claim that Sweden had more deaths in a week than neighboring country Findland in a month as "False".

As of today, the WHO website you provided shows Norway had, from Feb 28 to March 31st (1 month) deaths of 37.

Since 37 is greater than 28, I can only rate your claim that Sweden had more deaths in a week than neighboring country Norway in a month as "False".

Maybe there's a third invisible country I'm not aware of that you were referring to?

Your entire claim was false. According to the WHO website you provided. Now for the goal post moving and claims about how the data can't be trusted. Proceed, sir.