In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

GWbe-lying... always...
They are not averaging over 30 deaths a day...
that is lie...

the 7 day average is at 13 deaths a day...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

and on that metric Sweden is still doing better than your pick for best covid strategy and the EU and UK and France and Spain and many other European countries... and it looks like Canada too...

Here is another proof of your lies.. from a second source showing many countries. (they could be in trouble... but other countries are doing worse...)

see here...


https://ourworldindata.org/coronavi...othing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc


Sweden currently at over 30 deaths per day. Predicted to be over 100 per day by Christmas exceeding the April peak. Complete failure to the "natural herd immunity" stupidity.

Sweden’s herd immunity strategy has failed, hospitals inundated

With three words, Sweden’s king captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on its COVID-19 strategy and case numbers explode.
https://www.news.com.au/world/europ...d/news-story/374e397d9232036000a1d38548eabff9

With three words, Sweden’s King Carl Gustaf captured the panic engulfing his country as it backflips on a controversial herd immunity strategy and coronavirus case numbers explode.

On Instagram, he wrote, simply: “Hold on tight!”

The message is echoing around the Nordic breakaway nation which, up until now, has run a distinctly different race to its neighbours who locked down hard when the pandemic breached its borders.

It signals a complete reversal of a policy that allowed Swedes to govern themselves in the hopes that life could go on as normal.

Life did carry on as normal and it looked like Sweden might be vindicated for its strategy. But in the past few weeks, the country of 10 million has been smashed by COVID-19.

There were 6000 cases in a single day last week and hospitalisations are rising faster than anywhere else in Europe.



The death toll is following predictably behind. The Washington Post reports that Sweden’s per capita death rate is several times higher than in Finland, Denmark and Norway
– all of which locked down early.

It is believed roughly one-in-five people in Stockholm are infected.

With numbers exploding, Prime Minister Stefan Lofven has been forced to swallow his pride and admit that he got it wrong.

At a news conference on Monday, he did just that, telling reporters: “It is a clear and sharp signal to every person in our country as to what applies in the future. Don’t go to the gym, don’t go the library, don’t have dinner out, don’t have parties – cancel!”

And with that, Sweden’s experiment was officially crushed. But critics say it was never going to succeed.


Australian man and COVID-19 long-hauler David Steadson, who worked as an epidemiologist with the University of Queensland before moving to Sweden 20 years ago, told news.com.au the Swedish model rested too heavily on the wishful thinking that Swedes would keep themselves safe.

But the attitude that COVID-19 was not to be taken seriously became intertwined in the public health response.

When Mr Steadson first became ill, the advice from doctors was to stay away.

“Having suspected I had COVID-19, I was told not to even go to the doctor for fear of infecting health staff,” he says.

Even local media failed to gauge the seriousness of the situation, he said.

“Media outlets seemed more concerned with protecting Sweden’s image than they did in reporting the facts, and challenging the authorities over some of the frankly outrageous statements they make is left almost entirely to foreign journalists,” he says.


Dr Nick Talley is editor-in-chief of the Medical Journal of Australia. He says the Swedish model has been a failure.

“In my view, the Swedish model has not been a success, at least to date,” he told news.com.au.

“One clear goal at least early on was [to] reach herd immunity – but this was not achieved, not even close, and this was arguably predictable.”

He is joined by an increasing number of experts, both overseas and in Sweden, who are seeing the light.

Annika Linde, who was the predecessor to Sweden’s top public health officer Anders Tegnell, told the UK’s Daily Telegraph that she “hoped” Dr Tegnell was right about projections that Sweden would suffer less casualties because of accrued immunity.

“I hoped he was right. It would have been great. But he wasn’t,” she said. “Now we have a high death rate, and we have not escaped a second wave: Immunity makes a little difference maybe, but not much difference.”
 
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GWbe-lying... always...
They are not averaging over 30 deaths a day...
that is lie...

the 7 day average is at 8 deaths a day...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

and on that metric Sweden is still doing better than your pick for best covid strategy and the EU and UK and France and Spain and many other European countries... and it looks like Canada too...

Here is proof of your lies.. from a second source showing many countries. (they could be in trouble... but other countries are doing worse...)

see here...


https://ourworldindata.org/coronavi...othing=7&pickerMetric=location&pickerSort=asc

Once again why don't you go to the official health webpages of Sweden for your COVID data and information. -- including the government announcements on deaths.

I have provided links to these resources multiple times including how to translate them from Swedish to English easily. I have also provided information on their data release cycle.

Instead you just spend your time calling everyone a liar.

Sweden is doing much worse than its direct neighbors; Finland, Norway and Denmark -- both earlier and now.
 
once again gwBe-lying...
this is why I call you a liar...
this is your lie...

You have not produced any support for that lie...
Even in your article with the chart which they projected out to 100 deaths a day... you can see currently deaths are much lower than 20 deaths a day.

You just make shit up and lie... time after time... even when I give you the links.



I check and the numbers support / match worldometer since that is their source you idiot...
this is the 3rd time... you have lied about the govt source... supporting you.

click the link...
its not even close to 30 deaths a day...
"Avlidna per dag"

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Once again why don't you go to the official health webpages of Sweden for your COVID data and information. -- including the government announcements on deaths.

I have provided links to these resources multiple times including how to translate them from Swedish to English easily. I have also provided information on their data release cycle.

Instead you just spend your time calling everyone a liar.

Sweden is doing much worse than its direct neighbors; Finland, Norway and Denmark -- both earlier and now.
 
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You are a fucking idiot and you must be a little jealous bitch because you just make shit up and lie about my job and then business history.

I'm making a hypothesis about your lightweight fuckup, others always saving you past which was reinforced by your Gnus period.

Oh that and you are so dumb. You have never been responsible for any halfway serious project. You would see your stupid otherwise.
 
once again gwBe-lying...
this is why I call you a liar...
this is your lie...

You have not produced any support for that lie...
Even in your article with the chart which they projected out to 100 deaths a day... you can see currently deaths are much lower than 20 deaths a day.

You just make shit up and lie... time after time... even when I give you the links.



I check and the numbers support / match worldometer since that is their source you idiot...
this is the 3rd time... you have lied about the govt source... supporting you.

click the link...
its not even close to 30 deaths a day...
"Avlidna per dag"

https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

Still having problems reading charts and reading the Swedish government announcements -- you really should try harder to educate yourself with real information instead of your alternate reality.

I have provide articles and full explanations of how the Swedish stats work and their release cycle. I would urge you to go review it.

Let's see if you can even answer the basic question you failed to answer before -- What days of the week are the Swedish COVID data released on? Do you even have a basic understanding of this.
 
this is why you are...
gwBe-lying...

These are the sources...

7 day average for Sweden is averaging 13 deaths a day...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

7 day average for Germany (your pick for great response) is averaging... 231.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany

Could it change in the future... yep.

Have you lied again today... yes...
conclusively...
proven by the data.






Still having problems reading charts and reading the Swedish government announcements -- you really should try harder to educate yourself with real information instead of your alternate reality.

I have provide articles and full explanations of how the Swedish stats work and their release cycle. I would urge you to go review it.

Let's see if you can even answer the basic question you failed to answer before -- What days of the week are the Swedish COVID data released on? Do you even have a basic understanding of this.
 
Well the next time you make shit up... you should tell people it's made up shit...
Because declaring your own bullshit as if it is real... is lying.

Otherwise you are no better than gwBe-lying...



I'm making a hypothesis about your lightweight fuckup, others always saving you past which was reinforced by your Gnus period.

Oh that and you are so dumb. You have never been responsible for any halfway serious project. You would see your stupid otherwise.
 
this is why you are...
gwBe-lying...
You lie and then repeated go to your... "I provide the sources.."

But.. .you don't... you just lie...

These are the sources...

7 day average for Sweden is averaging 13 deaths a day...

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

7 day average for Germany (your pick for great response) is averaging... 231.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/germany

Could it change in the future... yep.

Have lied today... yes...
conclusively proven with data.

And what does Germany --- with a far larger population --- have to do with Sweden.

At least Germany is very aware of the situation and their federal government is taking appropriate public health care measures to address the virus. Sweden is in absolute confusion -- short of testing capability, lacking ICU capacity while facing a second wave the government claimed would never happen due to "natural herd immunity". Swedish government officials have now admitted their response is a complete failure -- it doesn't get much worse than that.

As noted in an article posted on the other Europe thread today Germany is also the ICU center for other countries -- -many of those deaths are residents of foreign countries that were sent to Germany already very sick from COVID. Germany is doing better than nearly all the other European nations currently -- this has been demonstrated in multiple charts over the past two weeks.
 
You are a fucking idiot and you must be a little jealous bitch because you just make shit up and lie about my job and then business history.

You've been too stupid all along to realize the data you've been using concerning Sweden was underreporting the current numbers because of the delays in how they report. It's been obvious for months, yet you still trotted out most recent 7 day averages like they were highly instructive in a fluid situation where deaths lag outbreaks by 4-5 weeks.

This is why you were talking about Canada "exploding" in Covid cases when anyone truly paying attention knew that an even worse outbreak was likely in the US within weeks. You just seem to be constantly a month behind reality. You were on here claiming Canada's numbers were better then the US because we were "closed". We told you are schools were all open, they never closed this school year. Maybe pay attention first and criticize people less, we might give you some credit.
 
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Well the next time you make shit up... you should tell people it's made up shit...
Because declaring your own bullshit as if it is real... is lying.

Otherwise you are no better than gwBe-lying...

Sure Gnus, lecture us on "lying".
 
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