In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

gwb-trading said:
31 is what the government of Sweden reported --- as outlined in all the press.

Your claim that they merely had 15 deaths over the past week --- obviously false.
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My claim was based on the worldometers chart. So, as of the chart data - which was yesterday to a week ago, the number was "maybe 15" (my exact words). You pointed out the footnote for today - which I admitted not seeing, which is very different than the article you shrieked about, and very different than the official site, and very different from the chart inside the very same article you posted.

And you still cannot admit error. You are the walking, talking personification of a stubborn jackass. Unable or unwilling to simply say "ok, it was probably an error" at the very least like any normal, socially mature individual would do so. My guess is you live alone, and have very little actual personal contact with people outside of the pizza guy and...maybe...your pharmacist.

Incidentally, the footnote you linked to points exactly to Jem's reference, which is the official sweden site which doesn't match at all with the article you quoted.

Wrong. On all fronts.
 
Tsing Tao said:
My claim was based on the worldometers chart. So, as of the chart data - which was yesterday to a week ago, the number was "maybe 15" (my exact words). You pointed out the footnote for today - which I admitted not seeing, which is very different than the article you shrieked about, and very different than the official site, and very different from the chart inside the very same article you posted.

And you still cannot admit error. You are the walking, talking personification of a stubborn jackass. Unable or unwilling to simply say "ok, it was probably an error" at the very least like any normal, socially mature individual would do so. My guess is you live alone, and have very little actual personal contact with people outside of the pizza guy and...maybe...your pharmacist.

Incidentally, the footnote you linked to points exactly to Jem's reference, which is the official sweden site which doesn't match at all with the article you quoted.

Wrong. On all fronts.
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So you are admitting Sweden had more than 15 deaths over the past week. Good to see. We are making some progress with helping you recognize the facts from the chaff.
 
gwb-trading said:
So you are admitting Sweden had more than 15 deaths over the past week. Good to see. We are making some progress with helping you recognize the facts from the chaff.
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Yes, I am admitting it. I've already said so twice. I didn't see the footnote, just went with the chart, which will be updated tomorrow.

What about you? 31 deaths on November 2nd? Come on, Chicken Little. Make us proud.
 
Tsing Tao said:
Yes, I am admitting it. I've already said so twice. I didn't see the footnote, just went with the chart, which will be updated tomorrow.

What about you? 31 deaths on November 2nd? Come on, Chicken Little. Make us proud.
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BTW -- Sweden does not report COVID deaths or cases on weekends, Mondays, or holidays.

Their statistics page is updated as per the following statementfrom the healthy ministry page that links to it.
"The page is updated Tuesday to Friday with daily numbers of cases at14:00 and updated with weekly data with the previous week's data on Thursdays at14:00."

The arcgis statistic page is - https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

The health ministry page with the statement on updating is - https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...istik-och-analyser/bekraftade-fall-i-sverige/

Pull it up in chrome where you can use the translate it to English function.

The latest weekly COVID weekly report for Week 44 from Sweden is here.
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...2020/covid-19-veckorapport-vecka-44-final.pdf

Weekly reports can be reached from - https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...stik-och-analyser/veckorapporten-om-covid-19/

The latest week report webpage summary is at - https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...vid-19-veckorapporter/senaste-covidrapporten/

Upon review -you may be correct that they 31 deaths reported on November 3nd reflect a three day period of Saturday (October 31), Sunday (Nov 1) , and Monday (Nov 2) -- for a period of three days reported on Tuesday morning.
 
gwb-trading said:
Upon review -you may be correct that they 31 deaths reported on November 3nd reflect a three day period of Saturday (October 31), Sunday (Nov 1) , and Monday (Nov 2) -- for a period of three days reported on Tuesday morning.
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I guess that's as good as an "oops" I'll ever get from someone like yourself.
 
gwb-trading said:
BTW -- Sweden does not report COVID deaths or cases on weekends, Mondays, or holidays...
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That might be because Swedes simply stop dying on those days, because they want to see the latest Soccer game scores before they expire.

If I was on my deathbed, I would choose, through sheer will, to wait until Tuesday, so I could see the latest American football scores for that week.

It would be like dying in the middle of a great movie or something. Nah, wait until the end of it.
 
gwb-trading said:
So is 31 deaths over 3 days greater than 15 deaths over a week.

Study it out and let us know.
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But that's not what you said. You said:

On November 2nd Sweden registered 31 COVID deaths...

Which didn't happen.

Still didn't happen, according to Worldometers.

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In fact, this says the three days you refer to had 20. Maybe you can move the goal posts again and tell us what three days we should be looking at?
 
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gwb-trading said:
BTW -- Sweden does not report COVID deaths or cases on weekends, Mondays, or holidays.

Their statistics page is updated as per the following statementfrom the healthy ministry page that links to it.
"The page is updated Tuesday to Friday with daily numbers of cases at14:00 and updated with weekly data with the previous week's data on Thursdays at14:00."

The arcgis statistic page is - https://experience.arcgis.com/experience/09f821667ce64bf7be6f9f87457ed9aa

The health ministry page with the statement on updating is - https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...istik-och-analyser/bekraftade-fall-i-sverige/

Pull it up in chrome where you can use the translate it to English function.

The latest weekly COVID weekly report for Week 44 from Sweden is here.
https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...2020/covid-19-veckorapport-vecka-44-final.pdf

Weekly reports can be reached from - https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...stik-och-analyser/veckorapporten-om-covid-19/

The latest week report webpage summary is at - https://www.folkhalsomyndigheten.se...vid-19-veckorapporter/senaste-covidrapporten/

Upon review -you may be correct that they 31 deaths reported on November 3nd reflect a three day period of Saturday (October 31), Sunday (Nov 1) , and Monday (Nov 2) -- for a period of three days reported on Tuesday morning.
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I think its strange to watch specific group of individuals defend Sweden has herd immunity, United States has herd immunity, Sweden is the model while ignoring other countries that had "No Lockdowns" are performing much better than Sweden...
  • Seriously, look at part of the title of this thread...Sweden stands apart.
Oddly, they are the same group of people that are defending Trump while they do not live in Sweden !!!

There must be a connection with their disassociation from the United States. All of this while shit is hitting the fan in the United States. For example, today I heard that hospitals are getting over-whelmed with Covid-19 patients in Wisconsin that they are now trying to make arrangements to send them to hospitals in Chicago, Illinois.
  • How the hell did the United States get like this ?
The U.S. Army Corps of Engineers built a 530-bed field hospital on the state fairgrounds in West Allis just outside Milwaukee in April at the request of Evers' administration. Local leaders had warned about the possibility of area hospitals being overwhelmed, but hospitalizations never reached the point where the hospital was needed until now.

A 530-bed field hospital built by the best engineers around still was not enough that they now need to send people to Chicago, Illinois...Wow.

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