In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

GWB

I have trouble believing how many times you lied and pretended science said there was no T Cell immunity...

What the fuck is wrong with you.... this is a very serious virus.
Science matters
People lives matter.

You don't just lie about science to suit your fear.




T-cell Covid immunity 'present in adults six months after first infection'
Study suggests white blood cell levels higher in people who had symptoms

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nt-in-adults-six-months-after-first-infection



T-cell response 'lasts six months after Covid infection'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54781496





gwb-trading said:
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"2. You still do incorporate T cell and B Cell immunity... only a moron like you pretends there is no science on the subject."
As stated by scientists there is no such think as T cell or B cell immunity. You are pushing fiction. T-Cells only reduce the possible severity of an infection -- they do not provide immunity.
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jem said:
GWB

I have trouble believing how many times you lied and pretended science said there was no T Cell immunity...

What the fuck is wrong with you.... this is a very serious virus.
Science matters
People lives matter.

You don't just lie about science to suit your fear.




T-cell Covid immunity 'present in adults six months after first infection'
Study suggests white blood cell levels higher in people who had symptoms

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...nt-in-adults-six-months-after-first-infection



T-cell response 'lasts six months after Covid infection'

https://www.bbc.com/news/health-54781496
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And as noted in the articles "T-cell response" does not provide COVID immunity. Only anti-bodies provide immunity. T-Cells simply reduce the symptoms if you get infected with COVID. This actually may cause further spread of COVID because the person with minimal symptoms may wander around town spreading COVID.
 
read the articles moron liar..
Why the fuck do you continue to lie about science?



from the BBC...


"The researchers say it is possible that a good T-cell response might provide people who had symptoms with more protection against being infected again.

But it could also be that asymptomatic people are simply able to fight off the virus without needing to build up a large immune response.

They said it was important to check for a T-cell response in trials of vaccines."





gwb-trading said:
And as noted in the articles "T-cell response" does not provide COVID immunity. Only anti-bodies provide immunity. T-Cells simply reduce the symptoms if you get infected with COVID. This actually may cause further spread of COVID because the person with minimal symptoms may wander around town spreading COVID.
More...
 
jem said:
read the articles moron liar..
Why the fuck do you continue about science?


from the BBC...


"The researchers say it is possible that a good T-cell response might provide people who had symptoms with more protection against being infected again.

But it could also be that asymptomatic people are simply able to fight off the virus without needing to build up a large immune response.

They said it was important to check for a T-cell response in trials of vaccines."
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Yes... in the same way it does for the common cold which is a coronavirus.

This is not the same as immunity --- which only antibodies can provide.

They don't really care about T-cell response as being part of "immunity" in vaccine trials. They look at T-cell response as component of the bodies response --- which in some cases may be unwanted.

Why don't you get back to pimping other non-scientific nonsense like using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID.
 
hey lying asshole...

What does this mean to you in English... if not possible immunity?



"The researchers say it is possible that a good T-cell response might provide people who had symptoms with more protection against being infected again.

But it could also be that asymptomatic people are simply able to fight off the virus without needing to build up a large immune response.



gwb-trading said:
Yes... in the same way it does for the common cold which is a coronavirus.

This is not the same as immunity --- which only antibodies can provide.

They don't really care about T-cell response as being part of "immunity" in vaccine trials. They look at T-cell response as component of the bodies response --- which in some cases may be unwanted.

Why don't you get back to pimping other non-scientific nonsense like using hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID.
More...
 
jem said:
hey lying asshole...

What does this mean to you in English... if not possible immunity?



"The researchers say it is possible that a good T-cell response might provide people who had symptoms with more protection against being infected again.

But it could also be that asymptomatic people are simply able to fight off the virus without needing to build up a large immune response.
More...

So are these people immune? Think carefully before answering.

BTW -- they are not immune.
 
gwb-trading said:
The Prime Minister of Sweden "stands apart"

Swedish PM self-isolates as nation sees rising virus cases
https://fredericksburg.com/news/wor...cle_05fcabac-ff1e-5677-9a31-da78d0a56dc6.html
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The Swedish PM is doing the right thing because he knows the science of Covid-19 nor does he believe its a hoax.

It would be an embarrassment if he did not self-isolate and infected others in the government to create a chaotic situation like the United States White House did with President Trump and then later again with Vice President Pence.

Always best to be safe then sorry.

wrbtrader
 
https://www.cebm.net/covid-19/what-...n-why-immunity-is-about-more-than-antibodies/


"SARS-CoV-2-specific memory T cells have also been detected in exposed seronegative healthy individuals (relatives of confirmed cases), which may indicate asymptomatic infection. One study has shown that ~93% of “exposed asymptomatic” individuals had a T cell response to SARS-CoV-2, despite seropositivity in only 60% of cases [28]. Asymptomatic infections may therefore be more common, and antibody testing alone may underestimate the true prevalence of the infection or population immunity. SARS-CoV-2-specific T cells were found in most of the convalescent patients in this study, which is a promising sign that infection may give rise to immunity [29]"
 
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