Right, because the virus treats all Nords the same. But only all Nords.
What a laugh.
In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart
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Right, because the virus treats all Nords the same. But only all Nords.
What a laugh.
Similar cultures, similar densities, similar types of governments, similar climate & weather, similar economies.... yes comparing Sweden to its nearby neighbors that are very similar makes the most sense.
Makes the most sense unless it tells a different story. Then you have some other excuse why we shouldn't, and that "science" doesn't support it. You're as transparent as a window.
because the world should shutdown for a virus with a .26 infection fatality rate in the US...
and you know its going to drop... because Covid already killed the most susceptible.
and... yes... those are the numbers from the CDC.
and you know its going to drop... because Covid already killed the most susceptible.
and... yes... those are the numbers from the CDC.
You do realize that the Infection Fatality Rate for the season flu is under 0.025%. This means that the Infection Fatality Rate for COVID is at least 12 times the seasonal flu -- considering that 0.3% is the low end of the range for COVID-19 infection fatality rate range of 0.3% to 0.8%.
The absurdity where you and others try to claim that COVID-19 is barely more deadly than the season flu by incorrectly comparing the Infection Fatality Rate of COVID-19 (0.3% to 0.8%) to the Case Fatality Rate of the seasonal flu which is 0.1% (in a bad flu season) --- is comparing apples and oranges. You need to compare the Infection Fatality Rate of COVID or the seasonal flu. Or compare the Case Fatality Rate of COVID-19 and the seasonal flu.
no asshole don't lie about what I have been arguing. I have been arguing for weeks the low risk group should be out because there no science supporting keeping them locked down...
I argued for weeks now the data shows Covid is not that deadly for the low risk group. (It is deadly for the old and some of the sick... particular with badly compromised immune systems.)
so stop with your lies.
and that was the IFR on 4/29.... from the CDC.
That is not the low side of a range... that is the dead smack on the nuts number on 4/29 from the CDC. That is the data...
I argued for weeks now the data shows Covid is not that deadly for the low risk group. (It is deadly for the old and some of the sick... particular with badly compromised immune systems.)
so stop with your lies.
and that was the IFR on 4/29.... from the CDC.
That is not the low side of a range... that is the dead smack on the nuts number on 4/29 from the CDC. That is the data...
this virus can wipe out people with compromised immune systems quickly.
latent TB was seen to be a huge issue in wuhan and italy.
I don't know anything about Brazil. I am not commenting on them
Nice illogical cheap shot.
latent TB was seen to be a huge issue in wuhan and italy.
I don't know anything about Brazil. I am not commenting on them
Nice illogical cheap shot.
A Lesson from Sweden on How Not to Respond to COVID-19
The Swedish government didn’t enforce social distancing. It’s now paying the price—in lives and in GDP.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/05/26/a-lesson-from-sweden-on-how-not-to-respond-to-covid-19/
In late March, when every other European country was in a lockdown to stop the spread of the coronavirus, Sweden remained the outlier. Instead of imposing strict shelter-in-place orders, officials decided that Swedes could be relied upon to follow sanitation guidelines themselves. Restaurants, shops, and recreational spots stayed open.
After all, Sweden has an excellent national health care system that ranks third in the world (the U.S. clocks in at a dismal 44). And with the Swedes’ low levels of obesity and diabetes, their generally good health and ample supply of hospital beds offer far better odds against COVID-19.
But even with these advantages, many Swedes did not stay at home. Sweden’s experiment in waging a lax battle against COVID-19 cost the country dearly. As of May 19, Sweden had more coronavirus deaths per capita than any other country in Europe, according to the Financial Times. Sweden’s death rate soared well above the neighboring Scandinavian countries that mandated their people stay at home: While Sweden has more than 3,300 excess deaths—a figure calculated comparing the number of deaths during the same time frame last year—Denmark had 300, while Norway and Finland had fewer than 100 each, according to the New York Times. Iceland’s death toll after its lockdown has been an impressive 11 times lower than the current figures in Sweden. These numbers make it clear: Sweden’s risky bet on keeping their economy open—placing its faith on the concept of herd immunity—wasn’t worth the hand.
Ironically, Sweden has found cheerleaders among the same Republicans and conservatives that have long vilified its socialized health care, progressive tax system, and liberal social policies. Even still, conservatives continue to hail the leftist country as a bastion of freedom and individual liberty during the COVID-19 pandemic. Anti-lockdown protestors rally have chanted, “Be more like Sweden!”
But for the steep cost in human lives, did Sweden at least save its economy? Nope. Its Central Bank projects a GDP downturn of 10 percent, about the same rate as its European counterparts.
That’s partly because the Swedish people were not as irresponsible as their government. Many followed social distancing—especially older people, who stayed home voluntarily following the recommendations of the World Health Organization. But it wasn’t enough. Now, the sobering, irrefutable truth of 3,300 excess deaths and a declining GDP has Sweden rethinking its policies.
(More at above url)
The Swedish government didn’t enforce social distancing. It’s now paying the price—in lives and in GDP.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/05/26/a-lesson-from-sweden-on-how-not-to-respond-to-covid-19/
In late March, when every other European country was in a lockdown to stop the spread of the coronavirus, Sweden remained the outlier. Instead of imposing strict shelter-in-place orders, officials decided that Swedes could be relied upon to follow sanitation guidelines themselves. Restaurants, shops, and recreational spots stayed open.
After all, Sweden has an excellent national health care system that ranks third in the world (the U.S. clocks in at a dismal 44). And with the Swedes’ low levels of obesity and diabetes, their generally good health and ample supply of hospital beds offer far better odds against COVID-19.
But even with these advantages, many Swedes did not stay at home. Sweden’s experiment in waging a lax battle against COVID-19 cost the country dearly. As of May 19, Sweden had more coronavirus deaths per capita than any other country in Europe, according to the Financial Times. Sweden’s death rate soared well above the neighboring Scandinavian countries that mandated their people stay at home: While Sweden has more than 3,300 excess deaths—a figure calculated comparing the number of deaths during the same time frame last year—Denmark had 300, while Norway and Finland had fewer than 100 each, according to the New York Times. Iceland’s death toll after its lockdown has been an impressive 11 times lower than the current figures in Sweden. These numbers make it clear: Sweden’s risky bet on keeping their economy open—placing its faith on the concept of herd immunity—wasn’t worth the hand.
Ironically, Sweden has found cheerleaders among the same Republicans and conservatives that have long vilified its socialized health care, progressive tax system, and liberal social policies. Even still, conservatives continue to hail the leftist country as a bastion of freedom and individual liberty during the COVID-19 pandemic. Anti-lockdown protestors rally have chanted, “Be more like Sweden!”
But for the steep cost in human lives, did Sweden at least save its economy? Nope. Its Central Bank projects a GDP downturn of 10 percent, about the same rate as its European counterparts.
That’s partly because the Swedish people were not as irresponsible as their government. Many followed social distancing—especially older people, who stayed home voluntarily following the recommendations of the World Health Organization. But it wasn’t enough. Now, the sobering, irrefutable truth of 3,300 excess deaths and a declining GDP has Sweden rethinking its policies.
(More at above url)