In the Coronavirus Fight in Scandinavia, Sweden Stands Apart

jem said:
you lie about being an american
you lie about being a trader (you did not trade but you went from making 5 million to 30 million during the months I ceased posting... you really should make an app to keep track of your fantasy brags)
and you are the world's worst most insincere analyst / psychologist.
you problem is you project all your faults onto others.


but thats ok... a lot of foreigners posting about american politics are part of the same troll farm as you.
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Again Gnus, all for them, not me. Yes, I did make a MASSIVE leap, I'm not validating those numbers but I doubled my wealth in one mega trade.This was on plan, sometimes you make big moves.

Now, I have pizza and you go and have a think about the sad man you have become.
 
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I may have missed the memo, but I recall life in 2008. I remember hearing about the H1N1 swing flu. I was working big box retail at the time.

I do not recall a mask mandate.

I do not recall all this pandemic talk, and I recall some folks recently saying that 60 million people got infected during H1N1.

Umm...

I dunno...Life seemed different in the year we were voting on Obama, during the Swine Flu pandemic. Nobody was talking on the CNNs every day about all the new cases and deaths.

Why is this time different?

Oh, because social media did not exist back then the way it does today, and all the whiny bitches we hear from today were 10-15 years old back then, and were too busy being kids, the way kids should be being. You know, having fun and not worrying about shit like this.

Now, everyone is up in everyone else's face because of the fucking smartphones and the "social media." Everyone is self-righteous about diseases.

It really sux that they stopped giving kids small pox vaccinations.

My small pox vaccination scar is my battle badge of honor in the fight against communicable diseases.

If small pox rears it's ugly head again, a lot of people are going to die. It will be like Logan's Run meets the Andromeda Strain, in reverse? Where only people OVER 30 YO survive?

In an irony, Trump seems to have become a Typhoid Mary. Anyone remember that chick?
 
jem said:
1. You just posted a meta analysis regarding masks while standing 6 feet apart.
I already explained that there are no studies which show masks alone work.
Masks with distancing work because all of the data we have shows Covid is not airborne and only spreads by droplets. So if ones stand 6 feet away... that works with or without a mask.

To be clear... what you need to find is a few good studies which show masks alone work in the prevention of the transmission of Covid.


2. don't attack the messenger... review the studies to which he linked.


One part of your critique is correct because I have read some of the masks studies.

Many studies conclude that they found no efficacy for masks in their testing but then they conclude.. if the govt says they work you should wear them. or something similar.
Only morons consider that part of the study useful.




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So your position on masks is based on irrelevant information pushed by a white supremacist who was fired from his university physics job and has no medical background. Even you should be able to figure out what is wrong with this.
 
no its based on the knowledge that there have been 33 million cases... and as of now...
there is no statistical meaning evidence showing Covid is transmitted via aerosol
no statistical meaningful evidence showing Covid is spread by asymptomatics

Hence, it is not surprising there is no or scant evidence or studies showing masks alone prevent the spread of Covid.

Additionally... being friends with doctors and married to a nurse with masters in community health I have been aware of many the studies quoted in that article. Its not new. Prior to Covid there were all sorts of OSHA requirements. Some requirements designed to protect workers from being harmed by masks and many telling us that surgical masks are unlikely to work in most circumstances....

The evidence of masks not working is all over if you educated yourself.



for instance....

https://www.osha.gov/Publications/OSHA3219.pdf

Surgical masks are not designed or certified to prevent the inhalation of small airborne contaminants. These particles are not visible to the naked eye but may still be capable of causing infection. Surgical masks are not designed to seal tightly against the user’s face. During inhalation, much of the potentially contaminated air can pass through gaps between the face and the surgical mask and not be pulled through the filter material of the mask. Their ability to filter small particles varies significantly based upon the type of material used to make the surgical mask, so they cannot be relied upon to protect workers against airborne infectious agents. Only surgical masks that are cleared by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to be legally marketed in the United States have been tested for their ability to resist blood and body fluids. How to Contact OSHA




gwb-trading said:
So your position on masks is based on irrelevant information pushed by a white supremacist who was fired from his university physics job and has no medical background. Even you should be able to figure out what is wrong with this.
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jem said:
no its based on the knowledge that there have been 33 million cases... and as of now...
there is no statistical meaning evidence showing Covid is transmitted via aerosol
no statistical meaningful evidence showing Covid is spread by asymptomatics

Hence, it is not surprising there is no or scant evidence or studies showing masks alone prevent the spread of Covid.

Additionally... being friends with doctors and married to a nurse with masters in community health I have been aware of many the studies quoted in that article. Its not new. Prior to Covid there were all sorts of OSHA requirements. Some requirements designed to protect workers from being harmed by masks and many telling us that surgical masks are unlikely to work in most circumstances....

The evidence of masks not working is all over if you educated yourself.



for instance....

https://www.osha.gov/Publications/OSHA3219.pdf

Surgical masks are not designed or certified to prevent the inhalation of small airborne contaminants. These particles are not visible to the naked eye but may still be capable of causing infection. Surgical masks are not designed to seal tightly against the user’s face. During inhalation, much of the potentially contaminated air can pass through gaps between the face and the surgical mask and not be pulled through the filter material of the mask. Their ability to filter small particles varies significantly based upon the type of material used to make the surgical mask, so they cannot be relied upon to protect workers against airborne infectious agents. Only surgical masks that are cleared by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration to be legally marketed in the United States have been tested for their ability to resist blood and body fluids. How to Contact OSHA
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If 95% of the U.S. population wore masks in the U.S. we can prevent over 50% of the COVID deaths before the end of the year.

Once again - let's outline the point - The primary purpose of masks is to prevent you from infecting others. As noted by many doctors; COVID is spread by asymptomatic people -- in fact recent research indicates that COVID is primary spread by asymptomatic people the first five days they have the infection. There is plentiful evidence showing the aerosol risk of COVID and demonstrating that a simple mask greatly reduces an infected person from infecting others.

Not wearing a mask in public situations with limited social distancing in the face of a novel COVID pandemic means that you basically support killing people.
 
Has Sweden's COVID-19 response faltered?
https://newseu.cgtn.com/news/2020-1...D-19-response-faltered--Uk9jcBGgtW/index.html

Short answer - Yes it has.

'But according to Bharat Pankhania, a disease control expert at the University of Exeter: "If you look at the case numbers for Sweden, they are comparable with other European countries. So let me bust that myth: Sweden has not done any better than any other European country. I admit it hasn't done any worse either."'

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