The fed would cut to negative rates and hand out free spending money in the tens of thousands of dollars before zero....
Maybe then they can actually implement universal basic income
In reality, situation could NEVER be worse
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The fed would cut to negative rates and hand out free spending money in the tens of thousands of dollars before zero....
Maybe then they can actually implement universal basic income
what analysis did you do to conclude this? what datasets were used?We are at such a bad point. The reality is that the situation could NEVER be worse, yet the stocks are at ALL TIME HIGHS.
What i am trying to imply is that there is some correlation between the stock market and economy. In reality, they are correlated one to another.
But we have gone so far into the fantasy land by pumping so hard that now there is ZERO correlation. The reality of the situation is that the situation is screwed up to the maximum in almost every regard.
The valuations have gotten so out of whack with reality... This is like EXTREME difference between REALITY of the situation and PERCEPTION OF THE SITUATION.
Bad times ahead (for the stock market prices).
with the situation so bad already, what would happen if we were to go into a recession? Would things get worse? I think not. There will be pain in the short term, but it's a much necessary reset. It's more than needed at this point for the sake of everyone involved.
We are driving towards a cliff. Let's hope we can learn from crashing the stock market, to not crash the real world as well.
Let's hope the upcoming bombing of the market will remove the need for an actual war or atleast limit it's size.
Actually, they are trying to keep the inflation a bit longer (than shorter),
simply to depreciate the HUGE DEBT the US has.
All big industry nations in the west see it the same way.
It is a chance for them.
And yes, truth is mostly, that THIS now is better, than if we wouldnt have inflation:
Then ALL of the debt has to been paid back (100% value), and in the end it may cost us (taxpayers) all more,
than to go the inflation way.
That is why, your presumption, there is so much money supply, is right in one way,
in the other: it is a relief for national debt.
That, plus high equities, could actually be a gift for many (active traders);
too bad vast parts of society do not trade.
They pay inflation + do not participate in equity markets.
It was wrong in 1st place to make such a huge debt.
Shows, that this type of democracy is not always the best for economy,
as it simply makes problems worse (in a 4 year cycle).
Rising debt, rising inflation, rising energy costs, manuf. jobs going overseas, etc.
in the end one can just hope to get off that huge debt mountain, and live life as it used to be,...
simply to depreciate the HUGE DEBT the US has.
All big industry nations in the west see it the same way.
It is a chance for them.
And yes, truth is mostly, that THIS now is better, than if we wouldnt have inflation:
Then ALL of the debt has to been paid back (100% value), and in the end it may cost us (taxpayers) all more,
than to go the inflation way.
That is why, your presumption, there is so much money supply, is right in one way,
in the other: it is a relief for national debt.
That, plus high equities, could actually be a gift for many (active traders);
too bad vast parts of society do not trade.
They pay inflation + do not participate in equity markets.
It was wrong in 1st place to make such a huge debt.
Shows, that this type of democracy is not always the best for economy,
as it simply makes problems worse (in a 4 year cycle).
Rising debt, rising inflation, rising energy costs, manuf. jobs going overseas, etc.
in the end one can just hope to get off that huge debt mountain, and live life as it used to be,...
yesh, but when the tide finally shifts most will lose everything
If so it is because they don't use stops. Which is the case for all markets, all symbols.
But for some dumb reason you have it in only for crypto.
i mean for all markets, but crypto are just situation squared and 100x the amount of fraud (the entire industry is basically a fraud, with almost no exception)
You wish. Smart traders will profit with the momo of the bull and profit with the rising of the bear.
You sound frustrated others are making bank.
Everyone knows the stock market leads the economy, except in a hyperinflation when the currency itself is being destroyed.
But I believe conditions were actually worse in the late teens (1910-1920), according to Jesse Livermore. Absoutely nothing was moving and the exchanges weren't even open every day. Bid ask spreadz almost as bad as commissions on physical gold sales, no trends of any kind, just a dead market for nearly a decade.
Even elite traders would leave that casino!