In Desperation, Mitt heads towards the middle

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Conservatives fired the first shot on social issues. They always do, they always will.

Now, fiscally. We have had this convo before. You know we are beyond the event horizon. Our focus now should be on survivors of the crash. That is why I do not understand some of you fiscal types. We crossed the event horizon during the Bush years, and no, it was not his fault.

Now, if you are a fiscal guy you should be fielding solutions on after the Fall. We going to crash, and there is nothing anyone can do about it. We have not yet gone parabolic, but we have a trend that cannot be broken now.

What is your plan after the Fall?

If someone very savvy got control of the Fed right now, they might be able to actually pull us back from oblivion. But that's not going to happen.

As far as my plan, I have quite a bit of gold and silver coins to protect against substantial inflation and devaluation. My wife, Russian, remembers when they woke up one morning and the government told them to remove two zeros off the rouble note. Consider waking up one morning to find that $200,000 nest egg is now $2,000 because of revaluation of the New Dollar.

Or consider what happens when, if ever, the Fed decides to try to reverse the massive inflation it will create and we go back to 18% interest rates and mortgages like what happened in the early 80s. What do you think that will do in this economy?

My purchasing power is protected. I will continue to divest accordingly. I also have nice land way out of the way, and am putting a nice cabin on that property, deep in the smokey mountains It'll be a nice place to go when society breaks down (as will happen in most collapse scenarios - prior to any reset).

My enemy is the Fed, though. And Obama is empowering the Fed to behave as stupidly as it is.

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from AK Forty Seven:



I will be bringing up many more after Romney loses .

I can see that. You have a work ethic with regards to preparation that is unmatched. I often find myself making general statements and wanting to post " see AK for the details"

 

[Tsing Tao]

Quote from RCG Trader:

No. But you do need to evaluate who actually shares your values. It isn't the Dems, and it isn't the GOP. I know you have looked at Ryan's voting record. I also know that you know Mittens is not a conservative, no sane person is. Why do you align yourself with these people?

Because they have the best chance of beating Obama out of anyone out there. The Enemy of my Enemy is my Friend. Even if only for a while.

 

[AK Forty Seven]

Quote from RCG Trader:



I am looking forward to 2016. Christie is a good candidate. And if he wins, I will vote for him. A great many of my friends and family will.

Its too early for an AK 2016 prediction but Christie shouldn't start planning the move to the White House yet imo.Dems have some very strong candidates in 2016,Hilary,Daval Patrick and Andrew Coumo.All 3 have as good a shot as Christie imo

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

If someone very savvy got control of the Fed right now, they might be able to actually pull us back from oblivion. But that's not going to happen.

As far as my plan, I have quite a bit of gold and silver coins to protect against substantial inflation and devaluation. My wife, Russian, remembers when they woke up one morning and the government told them to remove two zeros off the rouble note. Consider waking up one morning to find that $200,000 nest egg is now $2,000 because of revaluation of the New Dollar.

Or consider what happens when, if ever, the Fed decides to try to reverse the massive inflation it will create and we go back to 18% interest rates and mortgages like what happened in the early 80s. What do you think that will do in this economy?

My purchasing power is protected. I will continue to divest accordingly. I also have nice land way out of the way, and am putting a nice cabin on that property, deep in the smokey mountains It'll be a nice place to go when society breaks down (as will happen in most collapse scenarios - prior to any reset).

My enemy is the Fed, though. And Obama is empowering the Fed to behave as stupidly as it is.

So I can drop Tsing and call you by your real name, Ivan.

Ivan. The Russians were broken in part by Afghanistan. We stepped right into the same pile of dung. Now, you have a serious advantage in that you have gone Back to the Future. Most Americans have no clue what happens when an Empire collapses suddenly. It is one reason why I am a trader. I saw this in 1999.

Ivan, you know we will not avoid the crash. My actual question is, how can the masses survive it? This is what matters. "If we do not hang together, we shall surely hang separately." That is my worry.

 

[mrbill]

Quote from RCG Trader:

Well, this is the thing mrbill. I think Mittens has realized that he has to be who he really is. The true differences between Mittens and Obama are tiny.

There is a part of him I bet who is relieved to have thrown off the Tea Party yolk.

I agree, if nothing else comes from this election, the blowing off of the teaparty will be a victory of sorts, all on its' own. I think by 2016, the teaparty will be a side note to history.

Does anyone here on ET actually admit to being a teaparty supporter?

 

[mrbill]

Quote from RCG Trader:

So I can drop Tsing and call you by your real name, Ivan.

Ivan. The Russians were broken in part by Afghanistan. We stepped right into the same pile of dung. Now, you have a serious advantage in that you have gone Back to the Future. Most Americans have no clue what happens when an Empire collapses suddenly. It is one reason why I am a trader. I saw this in 1999.

Ivan, you know we will not avoid the crash. My actual question is, how can the masses survive it? This is what matters. "If we do hang together, we shall surely hang separately." That is my worry.

Did you forget a Not, as in if we do Not hang together?

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from mrbill:

Did you forget a Not, as in if we do Not hang together?

Thank you.

 

[Spike Trader]

Quote from Tsing Tao:

My wife, Russian

Is she a communist ?



he won't see this, he has me on ignore..

 

[RCG Trader]

Quote from Spike Trader:

Is she a communist ?



he won't see this, he has me on ignore..

okay, well now that I know Ivan is not native born, I am going to seriously try to have discussion with him.