In 2006, Obama said that raising debt ceiling was a sign of leadership failure...

Artful D0dger · Jul 28, 2011

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Ricter · Jul 28, 2011

He knows more now. So does Boehner it seems. They got into the details, now they see the devil.

bugscoe · Jul 28, 2011

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He knows more now. So does Boehner it seems. They got into the details, now they see the devil.

Yes they do: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=224235

Ricter · Jul 28, 2011

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Yes they do: http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=224235

Oh, that's right, I was going to respond to this, yet another total bullshit thread from pspr. Thank you.

bugscoe · Jul 28, 2011

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Oh, that's right, I was going to respond to this, yet another total bullshit thread from pspr. Thank you.

That's a lot of money these politicians are stealing from the poor.

Why aren't you outraged when it's politicos but you are when it's business owners like you?

Ricter · Jul 28, 2011

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That's a lot of money these politicians are stealing from the poor.

Why aren't you outraged when it's politicos but you are when it's business owners like you?

I'm outraged at businessmen IN government, not outraged at businessmen, or government.

bugscoe · Jul 28, 2011

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I'm outraged at businessmen IN government, not outraged at businessmen, or government.

You don't think people in government are businessmen?

Show me a politician who leaves office without millions in their bank account.

Ricter · Jul 28, 2011

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You don't think people in government are businessmen?

Show me a politician who leaves office without millions in their bank account.

Basically that's what I meant. Show me a politician who enters office without millions in their bank account.

Mercor · Jul 28, 2011

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Basically that's what I meant. Show me a politician who enters office without millions in their bank account.

Most come in office without millions. All leave with millions.

Scataphagos · Jul 28, 2011

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You don't think people in government are businessmen?

Show me a politician who leaves office without millions in their bank account.

Most businessmen earn their money honestly and through free enterprise.

Politicians get theirs via duplicity and theft from taxpayers and favors from lobbyists. Perhaps we should regard them more as criminals than "businessmen".