Implied Volatility

Quote from isoroi:

Oops.

50/16*sqrt36=18.75%

So, the market thinks there is a 50% chance that the share price will be within 18.75% of today's price in 36 days.

Is this right?

Well, to be more exact it would be 50*sqrt(36/365)=15.7%. If you use calendar days to expiry you need to use calendar days in a year (so in your equation it would be 50/19*sqrt(36)).

And it's 67% probability.
 
Quote from isoroi:

Oops.

50/16*sqrt36=18.75%

So, the market thinks there is a 50% chance that the share price will be within 18.75% of today's price in 36 days.

Is this right?

You need to use *trading days* so its about 23 days.

The probability is about 68%, not 50%.

But you're getting the idea

Cheers
 
Quote from MTE:

Greater probability of moving translates into higher premium - it's all proportional, there's no free lunch.

Implied volatility indicates only expected volatility (i.e. range of prices) not direction!

I don't think you can get away with a shortcut 101 crash course in implied volatility. You need to understand the pricing, you need to understand all the details. Why? Cause there are more ways to lose money in options than you can think of, so you always need to understand why you made/lost money on a particular trade so you can make adjustment accordingly.

I 'think' its coming together now. :)

Please assess my enlightened understanding with my summary below.

I do a lot of covered call selling. I have a screener that I use that points out high return option plays. It does not give me the IV. I was falsely interpreting the high premium as a measure of that option's volatility. The IV would be useful in determining which options are more likely to move before expiration. This would give me the opportunity to better gauge risk/reward.
 
Quote from wayneL:

You need to use *trading days* so its about 23 days.

The probability is about 68%, not 50%.

But you're getting the idea

Cheers

Heh, you lost me on the probabilty of 68%. Where did you get that value?

Gotcha on the actual trading days. Makes sense.
 
Quote from isoroi:

Heh, you lost me on the probabilty of 68%. Where did you get that value?

Gotcha on the actual trading days. Makes sense.

1 standard deviation=68% probability under a normal probability distribution curve.
 
Quote from wayneL:

You need to use *trading days* so its about 23 days.

The probability is about 68%, not 50%.

But you're getting the idea

Cheers

Don't forget that this is the markets "implication" of forward volatility (hence "implied" volatility)

It may or may not reflect the true probabilities or the volatility actually realized by expiry. That's where your own volatility projections come in (read - guesswork)

Cheers
 
Quote from isoroi:

I 'think' its coming together now. :)

Please assess my enlightened understanding with my summary below.

I do a lot of covered call selling. I have a screener that I use that points out high return option plays. It does not give me the IV. I was falsely interpreting the high premium as a measure of that option's volatility. The IV would be useful in determining which options are more likely to move before expiration. This would give me the opportunity to better gauge risk/reward.

Higher premium does mean greater volatility, but premium also depends on expiration and stock price. An IV chart gives you a better picture of what happened to option premiums in the past. For example, you may find an option with huge premium and when you look at IV you find that the option is trading at 200% IV, and when you look at an IV chart to see where this 200% is in relation to past levels you find that the average over the past 1-2 years has been 40%. You also notice that the same strike call, but in the next expiration month is trading at 45% volatility.

So what does that tell you? It tells you that the market expects a significant move in the stock price prior to the first call's expiration (it is common to see such pattern in biotech stocks where there's an FDA hearing coming). In other words, the higher premium is there for a reason. That is, higher probability of significant move. The risk/reward is proportional.

Looking at IV from various angles gives you a better picture of what the market expects in terms of future volatility without the need to use an option pricing model. That is, all the other variables are either the same or fixed, the only unknown is the volatility.
 
Quote from MTE:

Higher premium does mean greater volatility, but premium also depends on expiration and stock price. An IV chart gives you a better picture of what happened to option premiums in the past. For example, you may find an option with huge premium and when you look at IV you find that the option is trading at 200% IV, and when you look at an IV chart to see where this 200% is in relation to past levels you find that the average over the past 1-2 years has been 40%. You also notice that the same strike call, but in the next expiration month is trading at 45% volatility.

So what does that tell you? It tells you that the market expects a significant move in the stock price prior to the first call's expiration (it is common to see such pattern in biotech stocks where there's an FDA hearing coming). In other words, the higher premium is there for a reason. That is, higher probability of significant move. The risk/reward is proportional.

Looking at IV from various angles gives you a better picture of what the market expects in terms of future volatility without the need to use an option pricing model. That is, all the other variables are either the same or fixed, the only unknown is the volatility.

I think I'm following now. I appreciate everyone taking time to break this down to me.

However, you lost me on the 1 standard deviation. :P
 
Quote from isoroi:

I 'think' its coming together now. :)

Please assess my enlightened understanding with my summary below.

I do a lot of covered call selling. I have a screener that I use that points out high return option plays. It does not give me the IV. I was falsely interpreting the high premium as a measure of that option's volatility. The IV would be useful in determining which options are more likely to move before expiration. This would give me the opportunity to better gauge risk/reward.

A couple things to point out. Some might think that it is a matter of semantics, but I think if you're learning this you should have the right perspective on it.

An options price yeilds an "implied volatility", and not the other way around. People often say that one option has a higher premium because the IV is higher (ceteris paribus). This is backwards. The IV is higher because the premium under the same conditions is higher. That is why it is called "implied" volatility. It is what the future volatility must be (given the time left till expiry) to justify the current market price of a given option.

Current market sentiment determines a given option's value and the IV is the result. The price of the underlying and time till expiry are not debatable, they are fact. Thus to justify a higher market price you also need to "imply" a higher volatility, or greater chance that the option will expiry in the money.

As far as your use goes. Your primary concern should be finding a stock that you think is not likely to drop. Covered calls actually provide little protection in the event of a big drop in the underlying, and unless you buy back th calls at a loss, you can't sell you stock position to cut losses. You want to find a stock that you think will either stay put, or go higher. The premium received for selling the calls is secondary.

One nice cioncidence is that volatility generally rises as a stock falls. So a quick decline to a strong support might often get you a better premium. All things you must consider.
 
Quote from wayneL:

Don't forget that this is the markets "implication" of forward volatility (hence "implied" volatility)

It may or may not reflect the true probabilities or the volatility actually realized by expiry. That's where your own volatility projections come in (read - guesswork)

Cheers

I like this statement and make this point to people all the time.

Many people subscribe to the efficient markets theory. The basic assumption is that all securities are priced efficiently, including options. I don't fully buy into it. As far as I'm concerned, an option is ALMOST NEVER priced correctly. The only time that it is priced correctly is when the IV at the time of purchase matches the actual volatility from the time of purchase till expiry. This is exceptionally rare.

The real question is whether you can more frequently predict (or guess) whether the actual volatility will be higher or lower than the current implied vols.
 
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