Impeachment 2.0

CaptainObvious said:
As usual the left has overcharged just as they do in damn near every thug gets shot by a cop case. It was not an insurrection. They'll never have enough evidence to prove that in the Senate, unless they change the rules to needing a simple majority to convict, which is essentially a kangaroo court at that point.You can't incite people do something which never happened.
You can call it a riot, a violent mob, but it wasn't an insurrection which would require a whole lot more detailed planning, coordination and collaboration than what was done. Once again the idiot left let's pandering cloud their judgement and will blow a what would be otherwise a slam dunk.
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Exactly right. They love to sensationalize everything, makes them seem more believable.
 
CaptainObvious said:
No, that's a mob. They need to prove planning, forethought, coordination among several people at multiple levels. This never gets through the senate under current Senate rules and procedures.
There must be some Article 134 type regulation to get him on. Article 134 is the miltary general article which covers anything the first 133 don't cover. Basically it's a conduct unbecoming. Impeachment law must have something like that, which in case case would be a slam dunk. Insurrection is not. Kubuki theater and political grandstanding is all we're seeing here
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It is an impeachment to remove him from office not to try him and send him to prison. They don't have to convict him of actual treason or a coup. Inciting the people to act in a violent way to disrupt a Constitutional process and continually lying about the election and the phone call to GA (it was not a perfect phone call) are enough to impeach and convict in the court of Congress.
 
gwb-trading said:
The insurrectionists have been planning online for weeks. There is obvious forethought, and coordination among several people at multiple levels. A mob whipped up by a narcissistic leader to violently invade the legislative branch to stop the certification process of an election is an insurrection. Trying to claim this is a merely a "mob" when this has been whipped up and planned for weeks is absurd. Trump was even urging the crowd in Georgia on January 4th to march on Congress on the 6th.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1346226937568645121
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Stochastic terrorism and Trump has been at it from day 1. But he went a step too far this time.

Its 2/3 needed for the Senate to convict.
 
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El OchoCinco said:
It is an impeachment to remove him from office not to try him and send him to prison. They don't have to convict him of actual treason or a coup. Inciting the people to act in a violent way to disrupt a Constitutional process and continually lying about the election and the phone call to GA (it was not a perfect phone call) are enough to impeach and convict in the court of Congress.
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Don't be surprised if Sleepy Joe makes a preemptive move and asks the House or at least the Senate to set the impeachment process aside as if he is the Pope or something. Probably Pelosi cannot be stopped because she wants to avenge personal stuff.

Joe will do that under the guise of unity, healing, and staying focused in a national emergency and everyone will lap it up. The real story though is that he wants to fend off having his opponents looking into Biden Syndicate issues so he wants to try to set a precedent for letting bygones be bygones and hope that he can buy some protection by intervening in the impeachment process with his power of influence over the dems. And of course some of his nominees are going to be sticky wickets to get confirmed. Having a nasty, vindictive impeachment process for a president who has already left will not build him any good cheer for his nominees from republicans. If nominations can squeak by without their votes, then maybe that is not a factor. Then again......

It will get Joe off to a rocky start. This is Pelosi's last hurrah and she wants her legacy to show how that she kicked Trump in the balls twice. Not sure there is as much in it for Joe.
 
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