I should have worded my post more clearly.You are correct.The dry foot policy is fed policy,NOT Florida policy.Your assumption that it is somehow my duty to report illegal aliens to the authorities is way out of line.The illegal I referrred to,I met after the fact ,so there was nothing to report oh-I have more class than to leave immature snide comments at the end of my posts
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Immigration--Elites ignore voters
- Thread starter AAAintheBeltway
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Quote from hollywood:
I should have worded my post more clearly.You are correct.The dry foot policy is fed policy,NOT Florida policy.Your assumption that it is somehow my duty to report illegal aliens to the authorities is way out of line.The illegal I referrred to,I met after the fact ,so there was nothing to report oh-I have more class than to leave immature snide comments at the end of my posts
I am shocked - allow me to be the first to inform you that you have more than a duty - you have a legal obligation, and should it be shown that you did indeed have knowledge of an illegal activity, and failed to report it, you yourself are subject to prosecution...
Quote from AAAintheBeltway:
(remember the ill-conceived Motor Voter law?).
Remind me, what was ill-conceived about this? It certainly was convenient (not that my vote ever mattered in texas, but that's a different story)
Other states are accepting mexican consular cards as valid ID, even though they are easy to get fraudulently and really establish nothing about the bearer, except that they are a lawbreaker.
Well, sort of. The acceptance of the matricula as financial id is a result of lobbying efforts on the part of local law enforcement agencies. If the illegal immigrants can get bank accounts they aren't as likely to be robbed (this cuts down on the medical care (which your taxes pay for) dished out to aliens in the ER).
Don't get me wrong-- the banks had their hands in it too, after looking over the wire-transfer-to-.mx profits available if they could somehow take business away from Western Union..
The federal governemtn could put a stop to this but instead does nothing, and through lax enforcement encourages illegal immigration.
Except that enforcement costs a _lot_, and the economies of Cali, Arizona, and Texas would collapse. I agree with you, but the political realities are what they are-- and in this financial environment you cannot get ag producers to invest in the mechanization necessary to compete with foreign producers.
There is an unholy alliance of dirtbag politicians groveling for latino votes, businesses looking for cheap labor and ethnic race hustlers working against the voters and there doesn't appear to be a damn thing the voters can do about it.
You're right, but I wouldn't overgeneralize about the 'voters'. In the so-called 'red states' yes, but elsewhere opinion is not so firm.
Changing the basic character of a country through immigration is also something that should not be done without a lot of thought and open debate. We are doing it through stealth and inaction, and one day we will pay the price.
Right on.
Slightly OT, it strikes me as very funny that a network that spends $10's of K on image consultants to make hannity et al look like TV preachers (so their target walmart demographic will identify with them more), has people talking about 'Elites' ignoring 'average' voters. The question is, which team of Elites are you on? Are you with the Bush/PNAC Forces of Facism(tm)? Or are you with the Euro-socialist folks? And is there a Discordian elite out there, a third axis? (I'd put the Indonesian PM out there for floating the idea of resuscitating the gold dinar)
Hail Eris,
laz
Does that mean when you get home from driving somewhere,you call the police with all the license plates of cars you observed speeding?When you see someone walking a dog without a leash, do you call police because you observed someone in violation of the leash law?How about the dozen latin men milling around in the home depot parking lot?Do you call immigrationand have them checked for green cards? What I'd really like to know, is what in my original post ,hit a nerve with you?Aside from correcting a trivial wording problem I made concerning Florida,you've made remarks,personal in nature,to in the point of imlpying that I may somehow be involved in some illegal activity. The Forum deal with immigration.Do you have something valid and imformative to contribute, or not?
llaziz,
I think Motor Voter was ill-conceived because it increases the potential for fraud, and it was obviously designed to get more people on welfare,etc registered. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing that you have to go somewhere and register to vote. If people aren't willing to do that, voting doesn't matter very much to them and I'd just as soon they not vote. I don't want it to be a huge hassle, but I think there should be more formality than , say, agreeing to sign an organ donor card.
The Matricula cards are a huge issue to me, because they are beginning to represent a kind of backdoor visa system, administerd in our country by Mexico. We should be making it more difficult for illegals, not easier, but at the same time we should perhaps be looking at some sort of guest worker program.
Also, I think life would improve if people didn't have so much cheap labor available. When I grew up everyone did their own lawn care. Now my wife acts like she's humiliated if I go out and cut the damn grass because all the neighbors have lawn services. Get off your fat asses and do some manual labor people. It won't kill you.
I think Motor Voter was ill-conceived because it increases the potential for fraud, and it was obviously designed to get more people on welfare,etc registered. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing that you have to go somewhere and register to vote. If people aren't willing to do that, voting doesn't matter very much to them and I'd just as soon they not vote. I don't want it to be a huge hassle, but I think there should be more formality than , say, agreeing to sign an organ donor card.
The Matricula cards are a huge issue to me, because they are beginning to represent a kind of backdoor visa system, administerd in our country by Mexico. We should be making it more difficult for illegals, not easier, but at the same time we should perhaps be looking at some sort of guest worker program.
Also, I think life would improve if people didn't have so much cheap labor available. When I grew up everyone did their own lawn care. Now my wife acts like she's humiliated if I go out and cut the damn grass because all the neighbors have lawn services. Get off your fat asses and do some manual labor people. It won't kill you.