I'm looking for a /ES mentor -and i'll give you half my profits for 2yrs.

Don't keep looking. Don't keep searching. There is nothing to be found. I could hand you a 100% ROC in a year at a 5 Sharpe and you'd f*ck in sideways and blow up in a month.

And people wonder why this place is looked upon as a joke.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/threads/malicious-trolling-and-stalking.323122/page-35#post-4694894

Dude, you lost. You can't shut up long enough for people to ignore your own posts professing that you're a f*cking loser. Move on. We all have to at some point. Win or lose... and you're never going to make it in this business; that much is clear.

https://www.elitetrader.com/et/search/11122036/?q=destriero&o=date&c[user][0]=483534

I didn't lose the bet. I produced a $2MM run and $600K profits for the year (in that account).

What did you do? Tells us three years later, above, that you're an UNMITIGATED DISASTER.

Keep the $5K and buy your wife some KFC and roses.

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OP, nobody is going to hand you an edge in D1 (as if anyone in this thread has an edge) and your offer is pointless as it's not enforceable.

destriero,

Put your money where your mouth is. Let's bet!! Talk is cheap. Private message me or start a new thread. This week or this month, trading 1 contract my PnL will be higher than yours.

@destriero actually answered this post. That's an honor!

And he will kick your ass, trading, any timeframe, any day of the week, or month...
 
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destriero,

You have me on ignore like a damn girl, so I can not read your comments, clown.

You can send me the $5000 you owe me too, pussy coward.

Unblock me.

OP, ignore destriero, I am 100% certain he is not helping you, just talking shit and trolling as usual. This guy is the biggest clown.

BUT, he wins...
 
we will literally get a contract written and everything. If you can teach me to day trade futures, i'll give you half of my profits for two years.

i'm struggling with consistency using Macks Price Action Trading System, and i'd like to learn from someone who is actually doing it.

if i can be profitable for 3mo in demo, i'll take an account live with $10k, looking to make $500/day. id be splitting every penny i make with you. if i lose, you don't lose anything.

just looking to learn honestly, and i want you to be compensated for your time. Thank you for your consideration.

i'll need to see brokerage statements for the last two years before to verify consistency/profitability. i'm looking for someone making at least 15% per year after commissions. its a pretty low hurdle.


You are looking to make $500 a day with a $10K trading account?

ES margin is $13K right now. You wouldn't even be able to trade 1 contract with $10K.

Why would any profitable trader take you on for such a ridiculous proposition?

Traders who are profitable in this business have been trading at least close to 10 years - they have a system down pat. Why would they want to upset their cash cow to take on a newbie like you with a few thousand?

If you are talking a $1MM or more some might be interested.
 
sorry i came off that way. not trying to mooch. i've done a lot of self taught studying over the years, and i just thought a few hours over a few weeks with someone who actually does it full time would be a good next step.

If it was only this simple, few hours each week. If you last long enough, you will smile at these questions of yours years later.

here is a tip, apart from insider or HFT trading, you need a model with positive expectancy. All money management and psychology come as distance 2nd. And you need to automate to trade.
 
1.) i'm fine if you don't want to show your brokerage statements, but i do need some way to verify your profitability.

2.) i'm pretty well read in trading stuff, ive sifted through multiple assets/strategies. currently settled on FX trend trading (no nonsense forex methodology) and futures day trading (macks pat). the futures trading is new to me, and i'm still trying to figure out my approach. i have beliefs about the markets sorted out ( i think??). i'm relatively disciplined. i don't know if i can truly be aware of what the issue is, but i think it is currently more of the methodology than my psychology. macks 1 tick Stop Entry gets stopped out a lot, there are a lot of fake outs now. I will admit to my weaknesses tho: i have chased trades in demo. i can feel myself getting excited when i enter, and i am definitely excited when im in, even in demo. So i do not have the equanimity to go live yet, at all. especially with $12.50 per tick just floating around. I hope this answer your question a little better.

3.) im a professional jazz musician by trade, and ive been practicing piano since i was a child. it has taught me more about being teachable than anything ive ever done, it is a constant humbling experience. I value the mindset of being an Eternal Student, and i look to learn from everyone that i can. in trading, ive read countless books (Van Tharp, Kaufmann, Williams, LBR, Macks PAT, Naked Forex, Ross Camerons book, John Carter, Jeff Augman, Aziz day trading book, and loads more), ive read pscychology stuff, i've listen to hundreds of podcasts, watched dozens of youtube videos, backtested thousands of trades by hand, and go down forum rabbitholes every now and then. that's part of my problem i think: i've read too much. theres so much conflicting information out there, and i've got analysis paralysis. i don't need another book on setups and risk management. i need to trade. ineed to experiment and practice things in real time. i even think too much about buying pullbacks: do i market order when the ema is touched? do i trail a limit buy at the ema? do i wait for the pullback signal bar and then enter when a strong trend bar appears? Im in my head, and i think too much. Having someone who's a few years ahead of me to just bounce ideas off even would be huge.

i don't have 25% of two years of making $500/day (i can send bank statements to verify). realistically, especially with my risk tolerance, i'd be happy with $100 per day. but i can put $1000-$2000 in escrow for you, no problem. id be happy to work out the details in a message.
I know where you can get this training, but it is not from me. Message me if you're interested.
 
destriero,

You have me on ignore like a damn girl, so I can not read your comments, clown.

You can send me the $5000 you owe me too, pussy coward.

Unblock me.

OP, ignore destriero, I am 100% certain he is not helping you, just talking shit and trolling as usual. This guy is the biggest clown.
He is a pussy coward, no doubt!
 
sorry i came off that way. not trying to mooch. i've done a lot of self taught studying over the years, and i just thought a few hours over a few weeks with someone who actually does it full time would be a good next step.
Not to worry, we are all newbies and we learn together on ET. If I may, let me give you some food for thought.

Why do you want to trade? It is as opposite to music as they come. If the answer is anything other than you are passionate, then you probably shouldn't trade for a living.

If you just want to dabble and earn some "extra cash", you probably shouldn't either because that is why the majority of the traders failed, just like the majority of people who play musical instruments can't earn money playing musical instruments.

Assume you are truly passionate and would rather do this than anything else including music, then you need to find out which style fits you best, like you play piano and not violin. There are as many successful methods as traders, no one size fits all.

You pick a few professional day traders here and follow them. How do you know who is the real deal. You will know. First and foremost you want to learn how they think, what are their general guiding principle and their philosophy. Out of which you distill your own and formulate your own method.

As an example, @destriero, I knew he was the real deal the moment I compared my BIIB trade to his BIIB butterfly. He yelled at me, called me names and put me on ignore because I was a pest. Still I am grateful because from him I finally learned the difference between position and volatility.

One day you will have your eureka moment and you are there. If not you know trading is not for you.

Good luck.
 
ironchef,

You bullshitting again. You like bullshitting huh? What did the OP ask? He asked a very simple question. He do not care about your journey and how you ask around questions.

Maybe the OP does not want to take the path YOU took. Maybe he do not want to filter out shit and endure insults messing around.

The man ask a simple question it is a damn good question.

The man offered to pay someone to show him how to trade. Simple. Either you can help the man or you can not, if not be quiet.
I see your point. No need to argue.
 
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to anyone reading this, im 100% honest. i want to learn from a real life human being who actually does the shit, day in and day out. not an online trading academy where i watch videos and never hear back from anyone, or someone slinging a thirty year old 20 day breakout system.
sorry i came off that way. not trying to mooch. i've done a lot of self taught studying over the years, and i just thought a few hours over a few weeks with someone who actually does it full time would be a good next step.
My last post on your thread:

Don't take it wrong, I was just trying to be helpful.

If you insist on finding a mentor, offering money is not the right approach. Good traders don't need your money. The ones who take your money may not have anything to mentor.

Mentoring is a two way street, mentor and mentee have to have mutual respect and be compatible.
 
Hmm, a mentor making 15% per year and your desire of making 5% a day. There seems to be a disconnect here.

No he will be actually be making 2.5% cuz he's only getting half. The troll posts are getting more and more creative. LOL
 
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