I'm embarassed to be a democrat

AK Forty Seven · Jun 6, 2012

Money matters.In federal elections the candidate who raises the most money wins 94 % of the time

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icarus618 · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from Maverick74:

Ricter, Americans in this country have a first amendment right to spend their money how they want to spend it. It's not a matter of being stupid. Some people spend it on blow, some on women, some on cars and some donate to green causes. It's their right to do what they want to do with THEIR money. Next...

Would that be the first amendment to Maverick74's constitution? Then the second amendment must be the right to bear arms and shoot guns from a Prius while snorting cocaine from the bellies of underaged prostitutes.

Ricter · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from Maverick74:

Ricter, I gave money to Ron Paul even though I knew hell would freeze over twice before he ever got elected President. But I still gave him money. Does that make me stupid? I simply wanted to contribute.

That is fair. I'll concede by saying that there is a very strong element of "immortality project" in American politics today. Hence, the polarization.

Maverick74 · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from AK Forty Seven:

Money matters.In federal elections the candidate who raises the most money wins 94 % of the time

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Then how do you explain Ron Paul raising more money then Romney during most of the primary and losing?

Are you saying if some billionaire gave Ron Paul a billion dollars that the neo-cons would have elected him in the primary? Sorry kid, you lose this debate. The money argument only works when it's convenient to make that excuse.

Lucrum · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from Maverick74:

Ricter, Americans in this country have a first amendment right to spend their money how they want to spend it....

Ricter despises that right. He thinks the federal government should decide how individuals spend their money.

Maverick74 · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from Ricter:

That is fair. I'll concede by saying that there is a very strong element of "immortality project" in American politics today. Hence, the polarization.

Ricter, how much money would it take for you to vote for Republicans not only in the white house race but in all your local races both state and federal? Either money would convince you to vote republican or you admit that most people won't change their ideology because of a commercial.

Maverick74 · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from icarus618:

Would that be the first amendment to Maverick74's constitution? Then the second amendment must be the right to bear arms and shoot guns from a Prius while snorting cocaine from the bellies of underaged prostitutes.

Money is connected to free speech. Your welcome for the civics lesson.

CaptainObvious · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from Ricter:

Excitement.

What is this "stomped" you mention, 54 to 46?

I was not bitching, only analyzing rep behavior. If money doesn't much matter, then reps are pretty stupid. If money kinda matters, then 5 to 1 makes up quite a bit for the "kinda". If money really matters...

8 points is stomped in today's world. I wasn't talking about you specifically in regard to bitching. I'm referring to the dem party.

Ricter · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from Maverick74:

Ricter, how much money would it take for you to vote for Republicans not only in the white house race but in all your local races both state and federal? Either money would convince you to vote republican or you admit that most people won't change their ideology because of a commercial.

Don't forget, I'm an ideologue (like most here), my mind is already made up. ABSS! ; )

AK Forty Seven · Jun 6, 2012

Quote from Maverick74:

Then how do you explain Ron Paul raising more money then Romney during most of the primary and losing?

Incorrect stats

http://opinion.latimes.com/opinionl...ey-president-obama-political-fundraising.html

Ron Paul's chump change
October 6, 2011

Really, it's news that only political junkies pay attention to. But it's still staggering.

The Times reported Wednesday that "Rep. Ron Paul raised more than $8 million for his presidential campaign in the last three months" from 100,000 individual donors.

And that's not all. "Texas Gov. Rick Perry said he raised more than $17 million from 22,000 donors."

Wait, there's more. Though he didn't announce a total, "a source close to the Mitt Romney campaign said the former Massachusetts governor's third-quarter fundraising take was expected to be more than $14 million."

And let's be bipartisan here. Though President Obama's fundraising total in the quarter is reportedly lagging, he's still expected to rake in $55 million, compared with an $86-million haul in the previous quarter.