I'm doing 'God's work'

Quote from nitro:

I don't like the God comment. It is a statement that others should make about you, not you about yourself. But if the man is on a mission to do Gods work, and he really believes it, and does it, we should be encouraging him, not focusing on the fact that he is rich and pays himself huge sums of money, imo.

Except for the fact that Goldman Sachs might not even exist today without the aid of others. I'd like to see his interview if Goldman Sachs was given no aid and AIG was allowed to fail.
 
Quote from sprstpd:

Except for the fact that Goldman Sachs might not even exist today without the aid of others. I'd like to see his interview if Goldman Sachs was given no aid and AIG was allowed to fail.

GS would have been fine. They were forced to take aid. AIG on the other hand.....
 
Quote from nitro:

It is so hard to be objective on situation like this. But let me try:

Here are the top charitable contributors:

http://specials.slate.com/slate60/2007/

Here are the richest people and percent of what they give away:

http://www.forbes.com/2004/09/23/cz_dw_0923philan_rl04.html


You could say, nitro, you are naive. The guy did it to make himself rich. Perhaps, but if his actions in the end are that he helps countless numbers of people the way Bill Gates has, would the people that received that help hold the same oppinion that you do about him?

That is an interesting viewpoint, however you left out one thing.

How much misery and pain is produced by the gathering of that wealth?
If you generate pain for others in the process of acquiring your wealth, then donating it to charitable causes is not alleviating misery, merely redistributing it. And you take a nice, fat cut for yourself as middleman in the transfer.

Such "altruism" is a deception and cannot be equated with the ideals behind true charity.
 
Quote from MarketMasher:

That is an interesting viewpoint, however you left out one thing.

How much misery and pain is produced by the gathering of that wealth?
If you generate pain for others in the process of acquiring your wealth, then donating it to charitable causes is not alleviating misery, merely redistributing it. And you take a nice, fat cut for yourself as middleman in the transfer.

Such "altruism" is a deception and cannot be equated with the ideals behind true charity.



YES! And that "pain for others" is for example KNOWING you buy JUNK morgage with the fake credit rating, sell that to instituitions who is not seeing the big picture yet.

p.s. And then create the ABX.HE around 2006.
Now they sell JUNK for investment grade, AND create the index to watch when the market find out the lie. Clever.
 
All the replies commenting on mine, perhaps could be summarized thus:

Therefore each of you must put off falsehood and speak truthfully to his neighbor, for we are all members of one body...28 He who has been stealing must steal no longer, but must work, doing something useful with his own hands, that he may have something to share with those in need. - Ephesians

GS does not create anything useful per se. They are the ultimate middle man. It is not like say, MSFT that actually creates wealth.

What you are all arguing against is banks altogether, I think. There is a passage in the bible about neither a lender or a borrower be. To lend at an interest rate is sinful.

If you lend money to my people, to the poor among you, you shall not deal with them as a creditor; you shall not exact interest from them. - Exodous. 22:25

So, how do you all propose that modern economies work without banks? Are banks not necessary in a capitalist economy? Is banking in direct contradiction of what is in the bible? It goes against modern economic theory:

http://chestofbooks.com/finance/banking/Elementary-Banking/Why-Banks-Are-Necessary.html

Even institutions at the core of the banking system existance is being debated:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33859924/ns/business-the_new_york_times//

Finally, remember, the United States has a history against banking:

"I sincerely believe that banking establishments are more dangerous than standing armies." -Thomas Jefferson

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Why_did_James_Madison_oppose_the_bank_of_the_US

...Madison led the unsuccessful attempt to block Hamilton's proposed Bank of the United States, arguing the new Constitution did not explicitly allow the federal government to form a bank.
http://conservapedia.com/James_Madison
 
THE LLOYD’s Prayer
Our Chairman,
Who Art At Goldman,
Blankfein Be Thy Name.
The Rally’s Come. God’s Work Be Done
On Earth As There’s No Fear Of Correction.
Give Us This Day Our Daily Gains,
And Bankrupt Our Competitors
As You Taught Lehman and Bear Their Lessons.
And Bring Us Not Under Indictment.
For Thine Is The Treasury,
The House And The Senate
Forever and Ever.
Goldman.
 
Vhehn, you have way too much time on your hands but that's funny! :D

Quote from vhehn:

THE LLOYD’s Prayer
Our Chairman,
Who Art At Goldman,
Blankfein Be Thy Name.
The Rally’s Come. God’s Work Be Done
On Earth As There’s No Fear Of Correction.
Give Us This Day Our Daily Gains,
And Bankrupt Our Competitors
As You Taught Lehman and Bear Their Lessons.
And Bring Us Not Under Indictment.
For Thine Is The Treasury,
The House And The Senate
Forever and Ever.
Goldman.
 
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