I'm A Self-Hating Jew: This Disturbs Me - "Gaza Children Found With Mothers’ Corpses"

[Fishbird]

Quote from Lucian:

Well, I'm a self-loving jew, and I too would like for Palestenian civilians to not be killed in the conflict. A great start would be having Palestenian leadership not have Palestenian forces hiding out in, and fighting from schools, hospitals, and residential areas. I'm no military tactician, but I would bet that this would go a LONG way in preventing the death of non-combatant Palestenians. What do you guys think?

You believe this propaganda?
Even if they shot their harmless rockets from such places why do the jews shoot at them?
No human being would do that.

The israelis target is to kill ever palestinian. They can only do it with such propaganda. They even aim at crowds to kill as many as possible. They shoot at buildings where most civilians are hiding. They shoot at red cross helpers to prevent them from going there and telling the world what the jews are doing.

 

[a_person]

Quote from riskfreetrading:

"-The possession of stolen property is still a crime subject to confiscation of the property."
-Palestinians never stole anything from anyone.
I did not say they "stole", I am sure they bought it from the Romans, did not they? (claiming that Islam has not stolen land throughout history is absurd but anyway..)
I said they possessed stolen property. It's your own ridiculous argument that all land on the planet has to be returned to its rightful owner. There is a ton of evidence that Israel belonged to the Jews. And still Jews did not resort to stealing it back from the Arabs in the first half of the 20th century, they moved there legally (so did a bunch of arab nomads), they bought some land, they got some more land from the government (the British empire) during the partition and they did not dislocate arab land owners even on Israel's part of the partition until the arab world invaded Israel.

The physical features of a man or women, with cacausian features for instance, indicate cleary that such people have NO relation to Palestine.
Of course the DNA evidence proves that they are the descendants of ancient Israelites but what do those DNA researchers know compared to your knowledge and wisdom.

Judaism is a religion, and is not a race.
Really? For someone obsessed with Israel and the Jews you you're actually quite ignorant.

"A Jew is any person whose mother was a Jew or any person who has gone through the formal process of conversion to Judaism...a person born to a Jewish mother who is an atheist and never practices the Jewish religion is still a Jew, even in the eyes of the ultra-Orthodox."
http://www.jewfaq.org/whoisjew.htm

 

[destroyer]

Quote from a_person:

"-The possession of stolen property is still a crime subject to confiscation of the property."
-Palestinians never stole anything from anyone.
I did not say they "stole", I am sure they bought it from the Romans, did not they? (claiming that Islam has not stolen land throughout history is absurd but anyway..)
I said they possessed stolen property. It's your own ridiculous argument that all land on the planet has to be returned to its rightful owner. There is a ton of evidence that Israel belonged to the Jews. And still Jews did not resort to stealing it back from the Arabs in the first half of the 20th century, they moved there legally (so did a bunch of arab nomads), they bought some land, they got some more land from the government (the British empire) during the partition and they did not dislocate arab land owners even on Israel's part of the partition until the arab world invaded Israel.

That old propaganda myth was put to death a long, long time ago my friend. Here's one link debunking it: http://www.capmag.com/article.asp?ID=2136

Jews owned legally about 8% of the land that was given to them by the UN. The rest was largely inhabited by Palestinians who had to be transferred out.

The physical features of a man or women, with cacausian features for instance, indicate cleary that such people have NO relation to Palestine.
Of course the DNA evidence proves that they are the descendants of ancient Israelites but what do those DNA researchers know compared to your knowledge and wisdom.

I was under the impression that you creationists thought DNA was a scam

Since you seem to believe DNA research is valid, let's put the "Palestinians are Arab immigrants who came to Palestine to thrive on Jewish superiority" to rest once and for all: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinian_people#DNA_and_genetic_studies

"Even David Ben-Gurion and Yitzhak Ben Zvi tried to establish in a 1918 paper written in Yiddish that Palestinian peasants and their mode of life were living historical testimonies to Israelite practices in the biblical period.[69]

That the peasant culture of the large [palestinian] fellahin class embodied strong elements of both pre-Arabic and pre-Israelitic traditions was a conclusion arrived at by the many Western scholars and explorers who mapped and surveyed Palestine in great detail throughout the latter half of the 19th century"

You should read the whole article. Trying to change the complete history and background of an entire people for the sake of putting Israel in a better light, is quite cruel.

Whatever historic rights the Jews had to that piece of land, the Palestinians have that very same right - in addition to the much more valid right they have because of the fact that they have been living there continually for thousands of years (although mixing with various invaders like the Muslims, the crusaders, etc.).

 

[a_person]

Quote from destroyer:

Jews owned legally about 8% of the land that was given to them by the UN.

The rest was the land that belonged to the government (the British empire), not to the Arabs. More than half of what Israel got was the Negev desert - completely uninhabitable and unusable at the time.

Arabs owned about 40% of the land, they got 45% during the partition, that's in addition to Jordan and other 22 arab countries in the region. They have nothing to complain about.

 

[destroyer]

Quote from a_person:
The rest was the land that belonged to the government (the British empire), not to the Arabs.

By that logic, Denmark would have been justified giving Norwegian soil away to immigrants and letting the indigenous inhabitants be transferred out, back in the early 19th century when Norway was under Danish rule. I strongly disagree with this notion; A piece of land belongs to those living on it, not to whoever outside powers claims to rule it.

Arabs owned about 40% of the land, they got 45% during the partition,that's in addition to Jordan and other 22 arab countries in the region. They have nothing to complain about.

People aren't one collective being, people are individuals. The theft of land from an individual is not justified if that individual shares a common language with other people in other places. "Arabs" are not one single people, the term "Arabs" is comparable to the term "Latins". For Palestinians, resettling in other countries would be like Norwegians being forced to resettle in Finland, which sure as hell would make us do more than complain.

 

[TGregg]

Quote from a_person:

Arabs . . .have nothing to complain about.

Sure they do. Their women have to wear tents out in public all the time and beer is forbidden. They've got all this sand on the ocean and money but their beach parties suck.

No wonder they are always killing everybody.

 

[a_person]

Quote from destroyer:


People aren't one collective being, people are individuals. The theft of land from an individual is not justified if that individual shares a common language with other people in other places. "Arabs" are not one single people, the term "Arabs" is comparable to the term "Latins".

Complete nonsense

- individual ownership was not supposed to be affected at all by the partition, individual arab owners who accepted Israel and did not flee/join arab armies still own their land

- Transjordan was part of the British Palestinian mandate, the division was entirely artificial

- Non-palestinian arabs invaded Israel on behalf of their palestinian "brothers". Non-palestinian arab countries still don't recognize Israel's right to exist on behalf of their palestinian brothers. Cut the crap about them being totally different and sharing the language only. You sure want to have it both ways.

 

[a_person]

Hey destroyer, I have a special for you - voices from Norway

Quote from destroyer:

Yes, it's official. Norway sucks, and please don't heed our voice on the matter. Give us a few decades and we'll be turning to you again to help us with our own problematic internal affairs involving certain groups of people.

About the pro-Israel demonstration - which was an peaceful demonstration from several christians... Sadly; the aggression, flag-burning of Israeli flag, firebombs, smashing of windows, etc. etc... was performed by youngsters of palestinian/arab origin... (living in Norway).. And they're still at this moment continuing their "berserknes" behaviour in Oslo.. Quite bad "PR" for the palestinian situation.


I am sorry for how my nation and its stupid socialist are, Israel! But there are Norwegians that share your point of view.
Our country is gettin thorn up from inside, but you brave Israelis know how to defend yourselves from the crazyness. I suppoort you Israel and always have. Norwegians are soon a part of history

This is the reality. You are 100% correct. Last night show tells me everything i need to know about those people. There are many supporters of Israel in Norway, but the leftist, many journalist, anarchists, and muslims ofcourse make the picture of Norway look extremely bad. Im gong to Israel tomorrow on vacation Hold on Israel, even the hyenas are screaming now.

Norway is gone. It's lost. Norwegians doesnt deserve the right of life the way they let them self down.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3653198,00.html

 

[Fishbird]

Quote from Mom0/pH0x:

this fishbird is a deep guy, he likes paradoxical themes e.g. fish-bird, harmless-rocket

Not exactly harmless but if you compared
hamas homemade rockets with the damage of the jewish military its next to nothing. They can neven crack a nuclear plant like the jews want us to make believe.

http://palestinian.ning.com/forum/topics/the-other-side-of-the-story
Scroll down to see some examples.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cF6oZZpHrjM
Watch this to understand the reaction from the palestines.

 

[Fishbird]

And then watch this and you are cured.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_f0QTIsasw